Well, now that I have a little context, I actually will offer a few thoughts.  
First, while CEDA has a sexual harassment policy, it technically only applies 
to CEDA Nationals.  Other tournaments can (and often do) apply that policy as 
well, though CEDA leaves it to the tournament (since the CEDA policy could 
conceivably contradict school policies).  What CEDA requires is that the 
general principles of its policy against sexual discrimination be enforced.

I want to talk about two situations that occurred at our version of JV/Novice 
Nationals the past two years.  I think they illustrate some of the complexities 
involved here.  
Year 1 (China topic):  Coach comes up to me after round 1 or 2.  Coach is 
outraged, because a debater from a CEDA Northeast school has gotten almost 
naked (down to his underwear), ostensibly to look at the "Made in China" labels 
on his clothes.  The coach reports that the two women who debated for her/his 
school in the round felt as though the other debater had created a hostile 
environment.  Coach throws out the term sexual harassment and indicates, among 
other things, that I could be in trouble with my administration for allowing 
this.  We discuss this for a bit, and eventually, someone says something about 
a procedure.  A light bulb goes on for me.  I tell the coach that the first 
step in this case is going to be informal mediation.  I appoint a mediator 
(another reason why it's really cool to have Vanderbilt come to your tournament 
is that ML doesn't usually judge, so she's available for things like this!).  
Later on, I see the coach of the other school.  I mention the situation to 
her/him and indicate that there is a concern.  S/he says something to the 
effect of that the "nudity" is not crucial to the argument (so why do it?!), so 
the debater won't do it if anyone objects.  S/he is very helpful in resolving 
the problem.  I relay this to the complaining coach, who is still not happy, 
but who graciously agrees to leave things alone.

Year 2 (Supreme Court topic):  Debater gets naked in a round and then walks out 
into the hallway where he runs (not quite literally) into the parents of one of 
my debaters who are donating their time to the tournament (note:  all of this 
is third hand, as I'm home recovering from surgery, though I did make the final 
call on this).  The judge in that round is very upset (and I believe feels 
harassed).  The parents of debater handle it well (they just think it was 
stupid).  My tab room staff, etc. want to kick the debater out of the 
tournament and have him removed from campus.  I overrule them.  I am, however, 
absolutely livid with the coach of the naked debater (s/he probably didn't know 
this until now), fuming to one person, "If s/he wants to be a leader in this 
activity in the future (which s/he does and already is in many respects), s/he 
can't have her/his students going to other people's campuses and doing stuff 
like this."  Only months later do I find out that the coach had no idea that 
this was taking place and was angry about it as well.  I feel sheepish about 
being mad at her/him.

Here's the point:  it's great that Shawn has an administration that is 
supportive of him and his students as they test the limits of discourse.  
However, it's not just your administration that you need to be concerned about. 
 I'm pretty sure (virtually certain) that I could have explained either of 
these situations satisfactorily to my administration (though I'm not sure I 
would have wanted to expend the necessary capital).  There are other hosts who 
could not do so.  Do you really want to argue that your expression of artistic 
license outweighs the potential cancellation of someone else's program?

I was there, when after the initial "nude debate" at the NDT, the ADA passed a 
rule banning nudity and drug use in rounds.  I voted against that rule, because 
I thought it was stupid and unnecessary.  I expected that, after the first 
incidence of "in-round nudity" (which was well thought-out and was necessary to 
the performance), people would say, "Been there, done that".  I was wrong.

I still think that debate organizations shouldn't be about banning debater 
practices, but, as Sherry points out, there are limits.  And one person's 
challenge to the existing order is another person's sexual harassment.

That said, I'm not sure the legal arguments belong in-round (though they are 
reasonable to bring up with Shawn out-of-round as well as with the tournament 
administration).  And, I haven't seen the performance of Shawn's students, so 
I'm just speaking in terms of abstract principles.

--Neil Berch
West Virginia University

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  Just to play the advocate here, it is my understanding that CEDA has specific 
policies against harassment in debate rounds.  I know when we put an invitation 
out to our tournament and claim to be "CEDA-sanctioned" we are agreeing that 
those policies will be enforced at the tournament that we are hosting.  If 
people feel that your argument is in violation of those rules, what's wrong 
with asking the tournament to take action.  I must also confess that I am not 
as familiar with the CEDA rules as I am with the NDT governing documents, and 
am not sure what a host is supposed to do in response to such accusations.  It 
is also the case that probably every University in the United States has 
policies opposing harassing language on campus.  From my experience with 
various university policies that were implicated at summer debate camps over 
the years, most universities prefer that harassment issues be dealt with within 
the university before calling in law enforcement (unless a physical assault was 
involved).  Is your objection to last weekend's action that your arguments were 
characterized as "illegal"?  Would you really have preferred that police be 
called?

  Sherry

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    Hi Sherry,

    I really don't think its necessary - my point is that if someone thinks 
that the law has been violated and wants it enforced, they should call a cop 
and/or an attorney.  The debate tournament is not equiped to deal with those 
claims.

    That being said,  our debaters critique the heteronormativity in 
traditional international relations scholarship and in traditional academic 
debating.  They suggest that the results of heteronormativity have resulted in 
the structuring of terrorism and queerness in similar ways.  They attempt to 
"interrupt these discourses, informed by queer pedagogy, by performing a 
narrative which involves explicit language and some abbreviated, fully clothed 
similated sex acts.  The accusation was that our performance was sexual 
harassment.

    Shawn


    Shawn-- 
    I have to agree with Neil.  There is no way for anyone to add constructive 
comments or opinions about this issue when they have no idea what you are 
talking about.  Whether you want to debate the merits of the claim or not, some 
brief explanation of what the issues are -- what is your argument?  what is the 
nature of the accusation of illegality?  -- is necessary.  Surely, if someone 
threatens to kill someone else in a debate round, that is not protected speech 
just because it occurred in the setting of a debate round. 
    Sherry 
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