But, I think that the community reaction has now become more of a "how do we construct a winning strat against THEM," rather than a "how can We make some fundamental changes within our organization(s) to address their complaints." At that point, I think the movement for change has stalled. Just wanted to say, I agree with the above statement. The community is a strat and my teams are trying to debate them, all problematic. However, where we disagree is that I believe my students have the POWER to engage in effective strategies and tactics to overcome this hurdle. We have before and we certainly can again. But that is up to the collective political will of our students, not I, nor Scott. Personally, I haven't, don't and will never believe that the "community" determines my personal agency to change the world and I spent two hours this morning telling my students that the "community" doesn't have to determine theirs either, but that is up to them. Because the community is stagnant on their engagement with us, doesn't mean we have to be. I suspect that Louisville is a changin' and I personally look forward to seeing the outcomes of where they decide to go.
>>> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 11/14/2007 10:27 PM Subject: [CEDA-L] Reply to Warner This will be quick. My request to Dr. Stables post my comments was sent a day or two before I requested a response from Dr. Warner via private communications. So, there is some time lag issues. However, that is really irrelevant. I choose to disagree with Dr. Warner over his strategy and tactics for achieving change. It is obvious that I agree with him about a lot of issues regarding American policy debate. However, I think change should be made at the administrative level-among coaches, directors, and organizations. Ede and I see the world in two different ways. I do not see any productive purpose in engaging in this discussion with him any further. I look forward to seeing and evaluating his teams at tournaments in the furture. Their criticisms make some very valid points. But, I think that the community reaction has now become more of a "how do we construct a winning strat against THEM," rather than a "how can We make some fundamental changes within our organization(s) to address their complaints." At that point, I think the movement for change has stalled. Scott Elliott _______________________________________________ CEDA-L mailing list [email protected] http://www.ndtceda.com/mailman/listinfo/ceda-l
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