Hi Bernard,

I have thought about this a little. The biggest problem with using an ontology is that there doesn't seem to be any possibility of a mechanism for allowing user-defined units. The units ontology at present also doesn't appear to contain enough information to perform units conversions.

It would certainly be beneficial to have a single units language across all COMBINE standards. Given that the SBML world has considered CellML's units to be too complicated, I'm not sure what they'd think of UnitsML! But producing our own version of such a standard does seem rather foolish. I wonder if there's scope for a 'lite' version of UnitsML that could be incorporated?

From the very brief look I had, UnitsML does seem pretty comprehensive. I wasn't too enamoured of their approach to defining conversions though - you ought in most cases to be able to deduce appropriate conversions from the units definition, so it may be that they're lacking detail there.

Best wishes,
Jonathan

On 28/09/11 10:34, Bernard de Bono wrote:
Hi,

Is, alternatively, the use of an ontology for units also a consideration? Terms from such an ontology could be applied to the annotation of semantic metadata associated both with (i) model variables, as well as (ii) related datasets.

Thoughts most welcome.

All the best,

Bernard


On 28 September 2011 09:49, Steve McKeever <steve.mckee...@cs.ox.ac.uk <mailto:steve.mckee...@cs.ox.ac.uk>> wrote:

    Hi,
    Only had a quick read through but it looks good, perhaps a bit too
    comprehensive for CellML and FieldML. Hard to tell if it will become
    *the* standard for units though.
    Steve

    On 27 Sep 2011, at 01:04, David Brooks wrote:

    Hi,

    I've come across the Units Markup Language (UnitsML,
    http://unitsml.nist.gov/), which is a project of the National
    Institute of Standards and Technology for encoding scientific units of
    measure in XML. It is currently being standardised by OASIS (the
    Working Draft is at
    
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/42538/UnitsML-Guide-v1.0-wd01.pdf).

    Should UnitsML be embedded in a future version of CellML? In FieldML?
    To become the preferred way to specify units in the various MLs??


    Regards,
    Dave
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