On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 5:38 PM, Kenny Tilton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Laziz Foo wrote: >>> >>> Thanks! So I have lost track, is this Cells-Gtk3 (with Cells 3 Inside) or >>> Oldskool Cells-Gtk? >> >> >> This is cells-gtk3. Oldschool works out of the box, but I wanted the >> cairo stuff. > > And you got help from someone other than Peter H so it sounds as if CG3 has > taken hold. Cool. > > So it is a battle to death between Cello and Cells-Gtk3 for GUI supremacy? > Awesome.
I'm afraid I won't be able to push cells-gtk as much in the near future. Now that I have a job and a new apartment, Real Life keeps me quite busy. So 1:0 for cello ... >> It also occurs to me that >> if the 'yobbos' really wanted to popularize lisp, they'd find some way >> to use cells-*tk to create a Visual Studio-like thingy that would >> enable any CTO's nephew to say, "Oh lisp-- yeah, I do that." > > It would not help, I think. Programming is receding into the background (or > India or Russia or China) of culture. Once was a time lotsa people wired up > electronics. The career is still there for the odd weirdo, but -- well, it's > like shade-tree auto mechanics: gone along with the simple technology. I'd rather say it is like manufacturing: Programming has become a commodity rather than an art, so the big players produce where it is cheapest. So yes, the point-and-click low-barriers code writing will be gone soon, along with making sneakers, plastic toys, and printed circuit boards. But -- every now and then a handful of smart people realizes that there is more to programming than typing code, and then they create something great. Those people don't care about shiny IDEs, tho. Peter _______________________________________________ cells-gtk-devel site list cells-gtk-devel@common-lisp.net http://common-lisp.net/mailman/listinfo/cells-gtk-devel