Ernie:
I think we are pretty much on the same page with respect to this
development.
Alas, this still leaves me with a more prosaic problem.

The free speech group at U of O has, in it, some true believer
"anti-Zionists."
Mostly this is inconsequential, that is,  some people simply cannot be
taken seriously
by almost anyone. And in an actual free speech group you are bound to find
a  few  oddities.

But what do you do with an anti-Zionist "believer" who more-or-less  heads
a participatory mailing list that cannot be ignored ?  Not that this
particular issue
is a serious concern  here, it  doesn't exist here,  but  something similar
can arise in
other contexts easily enough. How do you deal with an  idee  fixe ?

In Dawn's case the source of the problem can be determined easily  enough.
She was married to a Jew, with whom she had 2 or 3 kids.  Somewhere  along
the line she became disenchanted, had an affair with a neo-Nazi (  probably
revenge or spite  as part of his appeal to her ), and ever since she  has
been
on a vendetta against Israel as , so I take it, stand-in for her ex  hubby,

In other words, you cannot argue with her, no amount of facts can persuade
her of anything
and she is quick to resort to her favorite anti-Zionist sites for
"information" ( half assed
propaganda presented as facts ) for authority..

So, what are my options ?

What are your options if you substitute "Mike" or "Beulah" or whomever, for
 Dawn,
if you are in a similar position ?

Any ideas ?

Billy

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In a message dated 6/17/2009 1:08:53 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
[email protected] writes:

Hi  Billy,


On Jun 17, 2009, at 12:10 PM, [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected])
wrote:

What is fascinating to me is the degree to which in Iran today — and in
Lebanon — the more secular forces of moderation have used technologies like
Facebook, Flickr, Twitter, blogging and text-messaging as their virtual 
mosque, as the place they can now gather, mobilize, plan, inform and  energize
their supporters, outside the grip of the state.
For the first time, the moderates, who were always stranded between
authoritarian regimes that had all the powers of the state and Islamists who  
had
all the powers of the mosque, now have their own place to come together  and
project power: the network. The Times _reported that_
(http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/16/world/middleeast/16media.html?scp=17&sq=June+16+2009&st=nyt)
Moussavi’s fan group on Facebook  alone has grown to more than 50,000
members. That’s surely more than any  mosque could hold — which is why the
government is now trying to block these  sites.



Very interesting find. Yes, this could be a significant trend.


-- Ernie P.


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