Radical Centrism at the University of  Oregon
 
 
Centroids:
Yesterday's lecture about Radical Centrism at the U of O went reasonably  
well.
Enthusiastic applause at the conclusion, and some nice comments 
afterward. Nonetheless, there were a few problems, a few things
I wish I would have done differently. So, here is an "after action  report"
that hopefully will have value to anyone else who may at some point
speak in public about RC.
 
There is a real problem in trying to describe the overall picture of
Radical Centrism.   Essentially the "field" is messy, it has  several 
"currents"
and  there are all sorts of people who use the phrase  inconsistently.
But I wanted to be as comprehensive as possible since 
( 1 ) few in the audience had any meaningful knowledge of RC, 
including people who may tune in to the presentation on local TV, and
( 2 ) who knows when any of these people will be exposed to
RC ideas again at any time in the future?
 
So, this was "it," a one chance to "sell" RC to an educated audience
and hope that some of those present might become interested.
About which I can say that, yes, there seems to be newfound interest,
that a few people probably will look into RC further. This seems
like a good conclusion to reach to judge from on-the-scene comments.
I must have done something right.
 
On the other hand,  I'd really like to "take back"  a few things  .
 
The Big Problem is that the story of RC needs a coherent narrative  line.
Parts of my lecture had a sense of "story," but other parts were way  too
rough in terms of introducing information at odd times when other 
times would have been better, and  not thinking through some  serious
problems with  RC themes or issues when this was really needed.
 
Another problem concerns explaining just how RC fits into everyone  else's
conventional political typology. Doing this requires at least  5 or 10  
minutes
of commentary and wherever you choose to place this in a discussion of  RC
presents problems. I did so toward the end of the lecture , the idea  being
tying together all the loose ends  from the preceding hour.   Placing this 
part
of the lecture at the very beginning might work well enough in a  classroom
where you know that students will be present the following day even  if
you speak about the  subject longer than a few minutes, but in an  
open-to-the-public 
presentation you don't have that option.
 
Anyway, this needs to be done somewhere, and wherever you place it
there will be problems.
 
Finding a good way to discuss people who have misused the concept of  RC,
or who misunderstand it and yet have set up RC blogs, is another  problem
that deserves attention. I think I was effective enough in this area, but 
it sure could have been better.
 
Giving credit where credit is due was also somewhat  weak. If Ernie  ever
sees a video of the lecture he would find himself referred to on two  
occasions.
one more-or-less extended. But I wanted to say more than I did, not  because
Ernie is perfect ( we obviously have X number of disagreements ), but  
because,
in doing the research for the presentation it dawned on me just how  much
of an influence he has been  --sometimes despite our  differences.
 
I gave Mark Satin plaudits even though he also irks me at times, 
and sometimes I am outraged at his views   But he has done a  great deal
for the RC cause and he deserves recognition. 
 
Members of our group were alluded to at points in the lecture, but it would 
 have
been far better to have been more specific  -even if this is only  clear to 
me in retrospect. 
 
Not to be cynical about it, since I genuinely am appreciative of   everyone 
who
has contributed to RC.com, but because we all are human. And face it,  if
someone mentioned "Billy Rojas" in an article the chances are fairly  high
that I would cite the article repeatedly from then on. And this is what we  
all
desire, our creative efforts, our statements of belief in a cause, being  
cited
by others so that our ideas are carried further than anyone can do on their 
 own.
 
Alas, while Ernie and Mark and Ted Halstead and a few others did get  
mentioned
directly, several other names that also deserved the same thing, only  
received
indirect reference. This won't happen again.
 
Surely there were other weaknesses, but let me get on to several  strengths
that were obvious and which anyone can build upon  in the  future.
 
I think that use of humor was a really good strategy to discuss  RC. 
Several jokes
and funny quotations  seemed to warm the crowd in attendance to the  message
which was to follow. 
 
For example, it seemed like a good idea to address the plain as the "nose  
on your face fact"
that so far there have been fairly few women involved in the movement. 
 
There is a conundrum here, or is it a dilemma ?  Anyway, the fact is  that 
men's
discourse, among men, tends to be self reinforcing.  When women are  present
men tend to moderate their masculine outlooks and frame issues in  more
gender inclusive ways, but it may require women's presence  first  -even if 
this may be
what is most needed to interest women to begin with.  I'll guess   the 
opposite is 
also true, but what is more relevant is mano-a-mano dialogue at Centroids. 
So, we need to be aware of the fact that there really are differences  
between the sexes.
 
To get this point across I quoted two experts on the subject, first  Elayne 
Brosler :
" When women get depressed, they eat or go shopping. Men invade another  
country.
Its a whole different way of thinking."
 
The other was Dave Berry :
"If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an  
infant's life,
she will choose to save the infant without even considering if there are  
men on base."
 
Why do we need Radical Centrism ? A number of funny quotes also made this  
clear.
 
" The more you read and observe about this politics thing, you got to  admit
that each party is worse than the other ."  
Will Rogers
 
But the biggest laugh came from this zinger by Emil Vrabic :
" Don't you know the difference between the two economic systems ?
Under Capitalism man exploits man. But under Communism its just the  
opposite."
 
To cite just one other example, here is a definition from Ambrose Bierce's 
Devil's Dictionary :
" Conservative, noun. [ Someone ] who is enamored of existing evils,
as distinguished from the Liberal, who wishes to replace them with  others."
 
Humor is no substitute for substance,  but it can be a real  help.
 
There is no need to outline the talk, especially since it would take some  
time
to do so and, more germane,  that is territory most of the group  is very 
familiar with.
But there are some new ideas that deserve mention. By way of  metaphor,
suppose there was a newsstand magazine called, to be completely  original,
RADICAL CENTRISM.
 
What might some of the stories for the current issue be called ?
 
Who most thinks like Radical Centrists ?
You decide : Charles Krauthammer, Cokie Roberts, Juan Williams, or   Fareed 
Zakaria ?
 
What happened to the California RC boom of the early  Schwarzenegger years ?
 
Vaclav Havel's unique version of Radical Centrism   -a  re-evaluation
 
Early use of the concept of Radical Centrism before there was  modern 
Radical Centrism
The example of George Wallace
 
Religious RC vs Atheist RC
 
F. A. Hayek, precursor to Radical Centrism ?
 
Radical Centrist Feminist : 
Christina Hoff  Sommers, Firebrand  Extraordinary
 
Wonk RCers and Techie RCers and Academic RCers
How they differ and why they hang together
 
Was Kemal Ataturk a Radical Centrist ?
 
Right-wing Radical Centrist   -Otto Strasser,  former Nazi
 
George Washington's Radical Centrist Cabinet
Jefferson, Hamilton, Henry Knox, and Edmund Randolf
 
 
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I made much of the Quivira Coalition  and also looked at C-Span
as the TV equivalent of RC, with special appreciation to Brian Lamb.
BTW, since Pacifica Forum, the venue for my talk,  has been  vilified for 
once 
having had David Irving as a guest speaker, plus many others, of course, 
it is worth noting that in 2004, C-Span made plans to televise
both Deborah Lipstadt and David Irving. Ms Lipstadt and
Irving  are on opposite sides as far as Holocaust scholarship  goes,
with Irving minimizing death tolls for Jewish victims of the Nazis, 
( to about 2 -1/2 million ), Lipstadt defending the conventional 6 million  
figure.
 
When Lipstadt decided not to allow TV use of her past speeches or  lectures
C-Span decided to cancel that program, but in point of fact the Irving  part
of it was set to go. 
 
C-Span has broadcast David Duke, Pat Buchanan,  Dinesh S'Souza, David  
Horowitz,  
Tomas Sowell, and Peggy Noonan. But it has also given a platform to Robert  
Reich,
Henry Louis Gates, Molly Ivins, George Soros, and  Ralph Nader, all on  the 
Left.
Additionally it has aired a number of people we might consider to be, if  
not RCers
as such, RC-compatible, like James Fallows, Kevin Phillips, and  
P.J.O'Rourke.
 
This is the kind of programming that it is safe to say warms the hearts of  
all
of us "purple people," we who are neither Democrats or Republicans but  
something
of both, and sometimes "other."
 
Back in early 2008, when he was first interested in RC, Lennart made this  
observation :
" I can't seem to shake the notion that the "proper view" of anything and  
RC is
basically a contradiction in terms."
 
In a sense that is 100 % true. On the other hand , in re-examining Ernie's  
Wikipedia article
I took a fresh look at what he said about "Epistemic Virtue" as defining  
what RC is
really all about.
 
Not sure exactly to what, but it can be argued that we need an alternative  
designation for
"Epistemic Virtue,"   -while retaining the phrase for use among  scholars-- 
 but the idea
says it all when you think about it. RC, while it does have an ideological  
dimension,
essentially is non-ideological and, instead, stands for  character.
 
I put together two lists, using the list of Epistemic Virtues provided by  
the link in the 
article and developed the overall concept further. Much more might be done  
with
the idea but for now , as an oversimplification ( let me stress the  
"oversimplification" part )---
 
RC is strongly opposed to:
All forms of prejudice and anti-Semitism
Both strict patriarchalism and gender feminism  ( sometimes called  radical 
feminism
  but for obvious reasons not the way we like to use the word  "radical" )
Dogmatism, narrow mindedness, and true-believer partisanship
Political Correctness
 
In contrast, RC stands for and promotes
Honesty and truthfulness
The need for practical results from our  bright ideas
The importance of education and of seeking solid evidence for just about  
anything
Respect for both history and science
Deep awareness of the human propensity to error, hence a sense of  
limitations
The extreme value of curiosity, ingenuity, creativity and imagination
Family values.
 
About which, the whole epistemic virtues theme , really could use some  
serious
work some day, to become more clear on the subject and to develop it
in persuasive ways .
 
Well, there was still more, as much as could be crammed into about 90  
minutes,
but to give you an idea.
 
Billy
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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