Disagreement # 07 There haven't been more than this, I think. Actually what I said was that about some matters Barry/Jake knows more than I know. About other areas of interest Re: Islam it is 180 degrees the opposite. Not exactly something I worry about. where he is good, he really is on the money. For which I am thankful, nothing else. I would add a note about terrorists that maybe Barry is minimizing. While the great majority of terrorists are Muslim, in local areas this is not the case at all. Large scale Maoist Commie terror in parts of India ( several states, mostly in the East and NE ), Nepal ( maybe under control now ), Peru ( Shining Path ), and Colombia ( although FARC might be as much Fascist as anything else ). Very real anti-Christian terror scattered across India mostly sponsored by Hindus who, even by BJP standards, are off the charts. Sporadic anti-Hindu terror in places like Fiji and, so the BJP says, by "Christian tribals" in SE Asia including some parts of India. Anti-Buddhist violence by the junta in Burma. Anti-Falun Gong persecution by the Communist regime in China. Drug related terror in Mexico, sometimes rather large scale, including beheadings, shootouts with cops or military, etc. All kinds of tribal related stuff going on in Sub-Saharan Africa, in places like Congo and the lake states area. So, yeah, every day ( or so it seems ) lots of Muslim terror, but not exactly a good idea to ignore the other terrorists. And I probably am overlooking something. Billy ===================================================== In a message dated 2/9/2010 10:16:10 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes:
Ernie, not so much to help with the beating but Billy says I know more about Islam than he does so I am guessing he just wants to add to the voice about Islam. The answer to your question let em give a best guesstimate on numbers. There are between 1.2B and 1.6B Muslims world-wide. Dr Daniel Pipes has, through his research on population census come to the estimated number of true jihadusts at between 5% and 10% of the total Muslim population. Given these figures I used the lowest total population and the highest percentage, thus my estimate of 120M. Since these numbers are not the result of any concrete and dedicated polling the error rate may exceed the +or- 3%. The definition of this group I would say is fundamental Islamic. They practice Islam in its purest form, following exactly the ways and behavior of Muhammad. If Muhammad married a girl of 6 and consummated the marriage when she reached 9, then that's what they will do. If Muhammad preached that Jews and Christians be killed if they do not convert to Islam, they will practice that as well. Muhammad is called "al-insan al-kamil" which translates to "the perfect man" and thus, by the standards of Islam Muslims must do what the perfect man has done. Some call these followers of the Qur'an a "tiny minority of extremists" or militants or insurgents, also radicals. Maybe you have even heard them referred to as misunderstanders of Islam. I just call them jihadists as that is how they define themselves. It is vitally important to remember that not all Muslims are terrorists.... ...But all(virtually) terrorists are Muslim. Regards to you and family, Ernie. Barry....er, Jake. PS, call me what you like, just don't call me late for dinner. > Hi Jake, > > On Feb 9, 2010, at 11:07 AM, [email protected] wrote: >> Good morning, nice to meet you, cyberally speaking. > > Likewise. :-) > >> The threat of jihadist Islam is real, no doubt. > > Yeah, I know, Billy has been beating me over the head with that for years. > I think he may have brought you on board to help. :-P > >> Just look at those formerly out-of-the-way places like Ethopia, >> Thailand, Eretria, The >> Maldives...all now bubbling with jihadists and ever-increasing Islamic >> ideology. Any policy that the West decides upon is based in an >> incorrect >> mindset which says that all parties are equal, and deserving of the same >> Western values/views as anybody else. > > So far, I am with you. > >> Islam, as defined and practiced today by over 120M Muslims says that >> they are one (ummah) and that >> anything done to one Muslim is done to all, thus the continuous calls >> for >> unity and emnity against non-Muslims. > > Okay, here is where I got a little confused by Billy, so hopefully you can > clarify. > > I usually see a number for around a billion Muslims in the world. So are > you saying that there's only a subset of around 120M or so that we really > need to worry about? If so, how would you define and label that subset? > > -- Ernie P. > > > _______________________________________________ > Centroids mailing list: [email protected] > http://radicalcentrism.com/mailman/listinfo/centroids_radicalcentrism.com > Archives at > http://radicalcentrism.org/pipermail/centroids_radicalcentrism.com/ > _______________________________________________ Centroids mailing list: [email protected] http://radicalcentrism.com/mailman/listinfo/centroids_radicalcentrism.com Archives at http://radicalcentrism.org/pipermail/centroids_radicalcentrism.com/
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