Hmm, yep — that param is actually only used for the warning; I guess
we forgot what it actually covers. :(

Have your monitor clocks been off by more than 5 seconds at any point?

On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 3:04 PM, Nick Bartos <[email protected]> wrote:
> Making 'mon clock drift allowed' very small (0.00001) does not
> reliably reproduce the hang.  I started looking at the code for 0.48.2
> and it looks like this is only used in Paxos::warn_on_future_time,
> which only handles the warning, nothing else.
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 2:21 PM, Sage Weil <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Fri, 16 Nov 2012, Nick Bartos wrote:
>>> Should I be lowering the clock drift allowed, or the lease interval to
>>> help reproduce it?
>>
>> clock drift allowed.
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 2:13 PM, Sage Weil <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> > You can safely set the clock drift allowed as high as 500ms.  The real
>>> > limitation is that it needs to be well under the lease interval, which is
>>> > currently 5 seconds by default.
>>> >
>>> > You might be able to reproduce more easily by lowering the threshold...
>>> >
>>> > sage
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Fri, 16 Nov 2012, Nick Bartos wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> How far off do the clocks need to be before there is a problem?  It
>>> >> would seem to be hard to ensure a very large cluster has all of it's
>>> >> nodes synchronized within 50ms (which seems to be the default for "mon
>>> >> clock drift allowed").  Does the mon clock drift allowed parameter
>>> >> change anything other than the log messages?  Are there any other
>>> >> tuning options that may help, assuming that this is the issue and it's
>>> >> not feasible to get the clocks more than 500ms in sync between all
>>> >> nodes?
>>> >>
>>> >> I'm trying to get a good way of reproducing this and get a trace on
>>> >> the ceph processes to see what they're waiting on.  I'll let you know
>>> >> when I have more info.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 11:16 AM, Sage Weil <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> >> > I just realized I was mixing up this thread with the other deadlock
>>> >> > thread.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > On Fri, 16 Nov 2012, Nick Bartos wrote:
>>> >> >> Turns out we're having the 'rbd map' hang on startup again, after we
>>> >> >> started using the wip-3.5 patch set.  How critical is the
>>> >> >> libceph_protect_ceph_con_open_with_mutex commit?  That's the one I
>>> >> >> removed before which seemed to get rid of the problem (although I'm
>>> >> >> not completely sure if it completely got rid of it, at least seemed to
>>> >> >> happen much less often).
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> It seems like we only started having this issue after we started
>>> >> >> patching the 3.5 ceph client (we started patching to try and get rid
>>> >> >> of a kernel oops, which the patches seem to have fixed).
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Right.  That patch fixes a real bug.  It also seems pretty unlikely 
>>> >> > that
>>> >> > this patch is related to the startup hang.  The original log showed 
>>> >> > clock
>>> >> > drift on the monitor that could very easily cause this sort of hang.  
>>> >> > Can
>>> >> > you confirm that that isn't the case with this recent instance of the
>>> >> > problem?  And/or attach a log?
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Thanks-
>>> >> > sage
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 4:25 PM, Sage Weil <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> >> >> > On Thu, 15 Nov 2012, Nick Bartos wrote:
>>> >> >> >> Sorry I guess this e-mail got missed.  I believe those patches came
>>> >> >> >> from the ceph/linux-3.5.5-ceph branch.  I'm now using the wip-3.5
>>> >> >> >> branch patches, which seem to all be fine.  We'll stick with 3.5 
>>> >> >> >> and
>>> >> >> >> this backport for now until we can figure out what's wrong with 
>>> >> >> >> 3.6.
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> I typically ignore the wip branches just due to the naming when I'm
>>> >> >> >> looking for updates.  Where should I typically look for updates 
>>> >> >> >> that
>>> >> >> >> aren't in released kernels?  Also, is there anything else in the 
>>> >> >> >> wip*
>>> >> >> >> branches that you think we may find particularly useful?
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > You were looking in the right place.  The problem was we weren't 
>>> >> >> > super
>>> >> >> > organized with our stable patches, and changed our minds about what 
>>> >> >> > to
>>> >> >> > send upstream.  These are 'wip' in the sense that they were in 
>>> >> >> > preparation
>>> >> >> > for going upstream.  The goal is to push them to the mainline stable
>>> >> >> > kernels and ideally not keep them in our tree at all.
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > wip-3.5 is an oddity because the mainline stable kernel is EOL'd, 
>>> >> >> > but
>>> >> >> > we're keeping it so that ubuntu can pick it up for quantal.
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > I'll make sure these are more clearly marked as stable.
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > sage
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 3:16 PM, Sage Weil <[email protected]> 
>>> >> >> >> wrote:
>>> >> >> >> > On Mon, 12 Nov 2012, Nick Bartos wrote:
>>> >> >> >> >> After removing 
>>> >> >> >> >> 8-libceph-protect-ceph_con_open-with-mutex.patch, it
>>> >> >> >> >> seems we no longer have this hang.
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> > Hmm, that's a bit disconcerting.  Did this series come from our 
>>> >> >> >> > old 3.5
>>> >> >> >> > stable series?  I recently prepared a new one that backports 
>>> >> >> >> > *all* of the
>>> >> >> >> > fixes from 3.6 to 3.5 (and 3.4); see wip-3.5 in ceph-client.git. 
>>> >> >> >> >  I would
>>> >> >> >> > be curious if you see problems with that.
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> > So far, with these fixes in place, we have not seen any 
>>> >> >> >> > unexplained kernel
>>> >> >> >> > crashes in this code.
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> > I take it you're going back to a 3.5 kernel because you weren't 
>>> >> >> >> > able to
>>> >> >> >> > get rid of the sync problem with 3.6?
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> > sage
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 5:43 PM, Josh Durgin 
>>> >> >> >> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> >> >> >> >> > On 11/08/2012 02:10 PM, Mandell Degerness wrote:
>>> >> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> >> We are seeing a somewhat random, but frequent hang on our 
>>> >> >> >> >> >> systems
>>> >> >> >> >> >> during startup.  The hang happens at the point where an "rbd 
>>> >> >> >> >> >> map
>>> >> >> >> >> >> <rbdvol>" command is run.
>>> >> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> >> I've attached the ceph logs from the cluster.  The map 
>>> >> >> >> >> >> command happens
>>> >> >> >> >> >> at Nov  8 18:41:09 on server 172.18.0.15.  The process which 
>>> >> >> >> >> >> hung can
>>> >> >> >> >> >> be seen in the log as 172.18.0.15:0/1143980479.
>>> >> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> >> It appears as if the TCP socket is opened to the OSD, but 
>>> >> >> >> >> >> then times
>>> >> >> >> >> >> out 15 minutes later, the process gets data when the socket 
>>> >> >> >> >> >> is closed
>>> >> >> >> >> >> on the client server and it retries.
>>> >> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> >> Please help.
>>> >> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> >> We are using ceph version 0.48.2argonaut
>>> >> >> >> >> >> (commit:3e02b2fad88c2a95d9c0c86878f10d1beb780bfe).
>>> >> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> >> We are using a 3.5.7 kernel with the following list of 
>>> >> >> >> >> >> patches applied:
>>> >> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> >> 1-libceph-encapsulate-out-message-data-setup.patch
>>> >> >> >> >> >> 2-libceph-dont-mark-footer-complete-before-it-is.patch
>>> >> >> >> >> >> 3-libceph-move-init-of-bio_iter.patch
>>> >> >> >> >> >> 4-libceph-dont-use-bio_iter-as-a-flag.patch
>>> >> >> >> >> >> 5-libceph-resubmit-linger-ops-when-pg-mapping-changes.patch
>>> >> >> >> >> >> 6-libceph-re-initialize-bio_iter-on-start-of-message-receive.patch
>>> >> >> >> >> >> 7-ceph-close-old-con-before-reopening-on-mds-reconnect.patch
>>> >> >> >> >> >> 8-libceph-protect-ceph_con_open-with-mutex.patch
>>> >> >> >> >> >> 9-libceph-reset-connection-retry-on-successfully-negotiation.patch
>>> >> >> >> >> >> 10-rbd-only-reset-capacity-when-pointing-to-head.patch
>>> >> >> >> >> >> 11-rbd-set-image-size-when-header-is-updated.patch
>>> >> >> >> >> >> 12-libceph-fix-crypto-key-null-deref-memory-leak.patch
>>> >> >> >> >> >> 13-ceph-tolerate-and-warn-on-extraneous-dentry-from-mds.patch
>>> >> >> >> >> >> 14-ceph-avoid-divide-by-zero-in-__validate_layout.patch
>>> >> >> >> >> >> 15-rbd-drop-dev-reference-on-error-in-rbd_open.patch
>>> >> >> >> >> >> 16-ceph-Fix-oops-when-handling-mdsmap-that-decreases-max_mds.patch
>>> >> >> >> >> >> 17-libceph-check-for-invalid-mapping.patch
>>> >> >> >> >> >> 18-ceph-propagate-layout-error-on-osd-request-creation.patch
>>> >> >> >> >> >> 19-rbd-BUG-on-invalid-layout.patch
>>> >> >> >> >> >> 20-ceph-return-EIO-on-invalid-layout-on-GET_DATALOC-ioctl.patch
>>> >> >> >> >> >> 21-ceph-avoid-32-bit-page-index-overflow.patch
>>> >> >> >> >> >> 23-ceph-fix-dentry-reference-leak-in-encode_fh.patch
>>> >> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> >> Any suggestions?
>>> >> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >> > The log shows your monitors don't have time sychronized 
>>> >> >> >> >> > enough among
>>> >> >> >> >> > them to make much progress (including authenticating new 
>>> >> >> >> >> > connections).
>>> >> >> >> >> > That's probably the real issue. 0.2s is pretty large clock 
>>> >> >> >> >> > drift.
>>> >> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >> >> One thought is that the following patch (which we could not 
>>> >> >> >> >> >> apply) is
>>> >> >> >> >> >> what is required:
>>> >> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> >> 22-rbd-reset-BACKOFF-if-unable-to-re-queue.patch
>>> >> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >> > This is certainly useful too, but I don't think it's the 
>>> >> >> >> >> > cause of
>>> >> >> >> >> > the delay in this case.
>>> >> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >> > Josh
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