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This is the test that we are running that simulates the workload size
and ratios of our typical servers. Of course we are not doing direct
I/O on our real workloads and the threads and jobs is arbitrary, but
it gives us an idea of the performance we could expect.

fio --name fio_test --rw randrw --bssplit
4k/85:32k/11:512/3:1m/1,4k/89:32k/10:512k/1 --ioengine libaio
--iodepth 8 --numjobs 8 --direct 1 --rwmixread 72 --norandommap
--minimal --size=2500MB --runtime=300 --time_based --thread

Right now we are spindle with SSD journals. We have not configured SSD
tiering, but I'm not sure it will help much given the low ratio of SSD
to spindle.

I'll do some tests on our dev cluster and see what I come up with.
Would doing this test be pretty pointless with 0.94.1, should I be
looking at master because there are significant improvements?

Thanks,
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On Sat, Jun 6, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Somnath Roy <somnath....@sandisk.com> wrote:
> Robert,
> You can try the following config option to enable asyn messenger.
>
> ms_type = async
> enable_experimental_unrecoverable_data_corrupting_features = ms-type-async
>
> BTW, what kind of workload you are trying , random read or write ?
> Also, is this SSD or HDD cluster ?
>
> Thanks & Regards
> Somnath
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ceph-devel-ow...@vger.kernel.org 
> [mailto:ceph-devel-ow...@vger.kernel.org] On Behalf Of Robert LeBlanc
> Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2015 8:06 AM
> To: Dałek, Piotr
> Cc: ceph-devel
> Subject: Re: Looking to improve small I/O performance
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> I found similar results in my testing as well. Ceph is certainly great at 
> large I/O, but our workloads are in the small I/O range. I understand that 
> latency plays a huge role when I/O is small. Since we have 10 and 40 Gb 
> Ethernet, we can't get much lower in latency that way (Infiniband is not an 
> option right now). So I was poking around to see if there was some code 
> optimizations that might reduce latency (not that I'm smart enough to do the 
> coding myself).
>
> I was surprised when enabling QEMU writeback cache and set the cache to the 
> working set size, I really didn't get any additional performance. After the 
> first run the QEMU process allocated almost all the memory. I believe after 
> several runs, there was some improvement, but not what I expected.
>
> What is the status of the async messenger, it looks like it is experimental 
> in the code? How do you enable it, I can't seem to find a config option, does 
> Ceph have to be compiled with it? I would like to test it on my dev cluster.
>
> Thanks,
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>
> On Sat, Jun 6, 2015 at 12:07 AM, Dałek, Piotr <piotr.da...@ts.fujitsu.com> 
> wrote:
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: ceph-devel-ow...@vger.kernel.org [mailto:ceph-devel-
>>>
>>> I'm digging into perf and the code to see here/how I might be able to
>>> improve performance for small I/O around 16K.
>>>
>>> I ran fio with rados and used perf to record. Looking through the
>>> report, there is a very substantial amount of time creating threads
>>> (or so it looks, but I'm really new to perf). It seems to point to
>>> messenger, so I looked in the code. From perf if looks like thread
>>> pooling isn't happening, but from what I can gather from the code, it 
>>> should.
>>> [..]
>>
>> This is so because you use SimpleMessenger, which can't handle small I/O 
>> well.
>> Indeed, threads are problematic with it, as well as memory allocation.
>> I did some benchmarking some time ago and the gist of it is that you
>> could try going for AsyncMessenger and see if it helps. You can also see my 
>> results here:
>> http://stuff.predictor.org.pl/chunksize.xlsx
>> From there you can see that most of the time of small I/Os in
>> SimpleMessenger Is spent in tcmalloc code, and also there's a
>> performance drop around 64k Blocksize in Async Messenger.
>>
>> With best regards / Pozdrawiam
>> Piotr Dałek
>>
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