Hi Igor,

Just to update you on our progress.

- We've not had another repro of this since switching to bitmap allocator / 
upgrading to the latest octopus release. I'll try to gather the full set of 
diags if we do see this again.
- I think my issues with an empty /var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-N/ folder are because 
we're running ceph in container which is using a mounted filesystem. As soon as 
I stop the OSD, the container terminated and the filesystem disappears. There's 
probably a way to decouple the ceph process from the lifetime of the container, 
but I've not figured it out yet.

Cheers again for all your help,

Dave

-----Original Message-----
From: Igor Fedotov <ifedo...@suse.de> 
Sent: 26 July 2021 13:30
To: Dave Piper <david.pi...@microsoft.com>; ceph-users@ceph.io
Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [ceph-users] OSDs flapping with "_open_alloc loaded 
132 GiB in 2930776 extents available 113 GiB"

Dave,

please see inline

On 7/26/2021 1:57 PM, Dave Piper wrote:
> Hi Igor,
>
>> So to get more verbose but less log one can set both debug-bluestore and 
>> debug-bluefs to 1/20. ...
> More verbose logging attached. I've trimmed the file to a single restart 
> attempt to keep the filesize down; let me know if there's not enough here.
Jul 26 10:25:07 condor_sc0 docker[19100]: -9628>
2021-07-26T10:25:05.512+0000 7f9b3ed48f40 20 bluefs _read got 32768 Jul 26 
10:25:07 condor_sc0 docker[19100]: -9627>
2021-07-26T10:25:05.512+0000 7f9b3ed48f40 10 bluefs _read h
0x563e8bd3ff80 0xb2d0000~8000 from file(ino 316842 size 0xe6a476e mtime
2021-07-14T15:54:21.751044+0000 allocated e6b0000 extents
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Jul 26 10:25:07 condor_sc0 docker[19100]: -9626>
2021-07-26T10:25:05.512+0000 7f9b3ed48f40 20 bluefs _read fetching
0x0~80000 of 1:0x1185d90000~80000
Jul 26 10:25:07 condor_sc0 docker[19100]: -9625>
2021-07-26T10:25:05.513+0000 7f9b3ed48f40 20 bluefs _read left 0x80000 len 
0x8000

^^^ I expected this stuff to count up to -1 where the most interesting stuff 
should be...


Jul 26 10:25:09 condor_sc0 docker[19550]: Error response from daemon: No 
such container: ceph-osd-1

Jul 26 10:25:19 condor_sc0 systemd[1]: ceph-osd@1.service holdoff time 
over, scheduling restart.
Jul 26 10:25:19 condor_sc0 systemd[1]: Stopped Ceph OSD.
Jul 26 10:25:19 condor_sc0 systemd[1]: Starting Ceph OSD...

>
>> It would be also great to collect the output for the following commands: ...
> I've tried running ceph-bluestore-tool previously on this system but both 
> commands fails with the following error:
>
> [qs-admin@condor_sc0 ~]$ sudo docker exec 419d997e5a05 ceph-bluestore-tool 
> --path /var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-1 --command bluefs-stats
> error from cold_open: (11) Resource temporarily unavailable
> 2021-07-26T10:50:15.032+0000 7f9a9bf68240 -1 
> bluestore(/var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-1) _lock_fsid failed to lock 
> /var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-1/fsid (is another ceph-osd still running?)(11) 
> Resource temporarily unavailable
> [qs-admin@condor_sc0 ~]$
>
> There's only one OSD running on this server; should I be stopping it / the 
> other OSDs in the cluster before running the `ceph-bluestore-tool` command? 
> Previously when the OSDs were failing to start, /var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-1/ was 
> empty but it now contains the following:

Each folder under /var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-N/ should be used exclusively 
by a single OSD. ceph-bluestore-tool to be run when the respective OSD 
is shutdown, other OSDs referring to different folders shouldn't matter.

Is the above valid for your case?

>
> [qs-admin@condor_sc0 ~]$ sudo docker exec 419d997e5a05 ls 
> /var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-1
> block
> ceph_fsid
> fsid
> keyring
> ready
> require_osd_release
> type
> whoami
> [qs-admin@condor_sc0 ~]$
>
>
>> And finally you can try to switch to bitmap allocator as a workaround ...
> Switching to the bitmap allocator as you suggested has led to both failing 
> OSDs starting up successfully. I've now got 3/3 OSDs up and in!  The cluster 
> still has MDS issues that were blocked behind getting the OSDs running as 
> mentioned in my original post, but I think these are unrelated to the OSD 
> problem as it's an issue we've seen in isolation elsewhere.
>
> So - that's a big step forward! Should I retry with my original config on the 
> latest octopus release and see if this is now fixed?

yeah, looks like this is a hybrid allocator bug - hence you can upgrade 
and check if this is fixed.


>
> Cheers again,
>
> Dave
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Igor Fedotov <ifedo...@suse.de>
> Sent: 26 July 2021 11:14
> To: Dave Piper <david.pi...@microsoft.com>; ceph-users@ceph.io
> Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [ceph-users] OSDs flapping with "_open_alloc 
> loaded 132 GiB in 2930776 extents available 113 GiB"
>
> Hi Dave,
>
> Some notes first:
>
> 1) The following behavior is fine, BlueStore mounts in two stages - the first 
> one is read-only and among other things it loads allocation map from DB. And 
> that's exactly the case here.
>
> Jul 26 08:55:31 condor_sc0 docker[15282]: 2021-07-26T08:55:31.703+0000
> 7f0e15b3df40  1 bluestore(/var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-1) _open_alloc loaded
> 132 GiB in 2930776 extents available 113 GiB Jul 26 08:55:31 condor_sc0 
> docker[15282]: 2021-07-26T08:55:31.703+0000
> 7f0e15b3df40  4 rocksdb: [db/db_impl.cc:390] Shutdown: canceling all 
> background work Jul 26 08:55:31 condor_sc0 docker[15282]: 
> 2021-07-26T08:55:31.704+0000
> 7f0e15b3df40  4 rocksdb: [db/db_impl.cc:563] Shutdown complete
>
> 2) What's really broken is the following allocation attempt:
>
> Jul 26 08:55:34 condor_sc0 docker[15282]: 2021-07-26T08:55:34.767+0000
> 7f0e15b3df40  1 bluefs _allocate failed to allocate 0x100716 on bdev 1, free 
> 0xd0000; fallback to bdev 2 Jul 26 08:55:34 condor_sc0 docker[15282]: 
> 2021-07-26T08:55:34.767+0000
> 7f0e15b3df40  1 bluefs _allocate unable to allocate 0x100716 on bdev 2, free 
> 0xffffffffffffffff; fallback to slow device expander Jul 26 08:55:35 
> condor_sc0 docker[15282]: 2021-07-26T08:55:35.042+0000
> 7f0e15b3df40 -1 bluestore(/var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-1)
> allocate_bluefs_freespace failed to allocate on 0x40000000 min_size
> 0x110000 > allocated total 0x0 bluefs_shared_alloc_size 0x10000 allocated 0x0 
> available 0x 1c09738000 Jul 26 08:55:35 condor_sc0 docker[15282]: 
> 2021-07-26T08:55:35.044+0000
> 7f0e15b3df40 -1 bluefs _allocate failed to expand slow device to fit
> +0x100716
> Jul 26 08:55:35 condor_sc0 docker[15282]: 2021-07-26T08:55:35.044+0000
> 7f0e15b3df40 -1 bluefs _flush_range allocated: 0x0 offset: 0x0 length:
> 0x100716
>
> This occurs during BlueFS recovery and that's an attempt to get more space to 
> write out the bluefs log. This shouldn't fail given the plenty of free space:
>
> ... available 0x 1c09738000 ...
>
>
> So to get more verbose but less log one can set both debug-bluestore and 
> debug-bluefs to 1/20. This way just last 10000 lines of the log preceeding 
> the crash would be at level 20. Which seems sufficient for the 
> troubleshooting.
>
> It would be also great to collect the output for the following commands:
>
> ceph-bluestore-tool --path <osd-dir> --command bluefs-bdev-sizes
>
> ceph-bluestore-tool --path <osd-dir> --command bluefs-stats
>
>
> And finally you can try to switch to bitmap allocator as a workaround - we've 
> fixed a couple of issues in Hybrid one which prevented from proper 
> allcoations under some circumstances. The fixes were made after v15.2.11 
> release hence this might be the case. So please try setting:
>
> bluestore_allocator = bitmap
>
> bluefs_allocator = bitmap
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Igor
>
>
> On 7/26/2021 12:14 PM, Dave Piper wrote:
>> Hi Igor,
>>
>> Thanks for your time looking into this.
>>
>> I've attached a 5 minute window of OSD logs, which includes several restart 
>> attempt (each one takes ~25 seconds).
>>
>> When I said it looked like we were starting up in a different state, I'm 
>> referring to how "Recovered from manifest file" log appears twice, with 
>> different logs afterwards. This behaviour seems to repeat reliably on each 
>> restart of the OSD. My interpretation of this was that when the initial 
>> recovery attempt leads to the rocksdb shutdown, ceph is automatically trying 
>> to start the OSD in some alternative state but that this is also failing 
>> (with the bdev errors I copied in).  Possibly I'm inferring too much.
>>
>> I tried turning up the logging levels for rocksdb and bluestore but they're 
>> both very spammy so I've not included this in the attached logs. Let me know 
>> if you think that would be helpful.
>>
>> My ceph version is 15.2.11. We're running a containerized deployment using 
>> docker image ceph-daemon:v5.0.10-stable-5.0-octopus-centos-8 .
>>
>> [qs-admin@condor_sc0 metaswitch]$ sudo docker exec b732f9135b42 ceph
>> version ceph version 15.2.11
>> (e3523634d9c2227df9af89a4eac33d16738c49cb) octopus (stable)
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Igor Fedotov <ifedo...@suse.de>
>> Sent: 23 July 2021 20:45
>> To: Dave Piper <david.pi...@microsoft.com>; ceph-users@ceph.io
>> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [ceph-users] OSDs flapping with "_open_alloc loaded 
>> 132 GiB in 2930776 extents available 113 GiB"
>>
>> Hi Dave,
>>
>> The follow log line indicates that allocator has just completed loading 
>> information about free disk blocks into memory.  And it looks perfectly fine.
>>
>>> _open_alloc loaded 132 GiB in 2930776 extents available 113 GiB
>>     
>>
>> Subsequent rocksdb shutdown looks weird without any other log output 
>> indicating the issue.
>> Curious what do you mean under "
>>
>> After that we seem to try starting up in a slightly different state and get 
>> a different set of errors:
>>
>> "
>> The resulted errors show lack of disk space at some point but I'd definitely 
>> like to get the full startup log.
>>
>> Please also specify which Octopus version do you have?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Igor
>>
>> On 7/23/2021 6:48 PM, Dave Piper wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> We've got a containerized test cluster with 3 OSDs and ~ 220GiB of data. 
>>> Shortly after upgrading from nautilus -> octopus, 2 of the 3 OSDs have 
>>> started flapping. I've also got alarms about the MDS being damaged, which 
>>> we've seen elsewhere and have a recovery process for, but I'm unable to run 
>>> this (I suspect because I've only got 1 functioning OSD). My RGWs are also 
>>> failing to start, again I suspect because of the bad state of OSDs. I've 
>>> tried restarting all OSDs, rebooting all servers, checked auth (all looks 
>>> fine) - but I'm still in the same state.
>>>
>>> My OSDs seem to be failing at the  "_open_alloc opening allocation 
>>> metadata" step; looking at logs for each OSD restart, the OSD writes this 
>>> log, then no logs for a few minutes and then logs:
>>>
>>>        bluestore(/var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-1) _open_alloc loaded 132 GiB in 
>>> 2930776 extents available 113 GiB
>>>        rocksdb: [db/db_impl.cc:390] Shutdown: canceling all background
>>> work
>>>
>>> After that we seem to try starting up in a slightly different state and get 
>>> a different set of errors:
>>>
>>>        bluefs _allocate failed to allocate 0x100716 on bdev 1, free 
>>> 0xd0000; fallback to bdev 2
>>>        bluefs _allocate unable to allocate 0x100716 on bdev 2, free
>>> 0xffffffffffffffff; fallback to slow device expander
>>>
>>> and eventually crash and log a heap of stack dumps.
>>>
>>> I don't know what extents are but I seem to have a lot of them, and more 
>>> than I've got capacity for? Maybe I'm running out of RAM or disk space 
>>> somewhere, but I've got 21GB of free RAM on the server, and each OSD has a 
>>> 350GiB device attached to it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm wondering if anyone has seen anything like this before or can suggest 
>>> next debug steps to take?
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Full OSD logs surrounding the "_open_alloc opening allocation metadata" 
>>> step:
>>>
>>>
>>> Jul 23 00:07:13 condor_sc0 container_name/ceph-osd-1[1709]:
>>> 2021-07-23T00:07:13.818+0000 7f3de111bf40  4 rocksdb: EVENT_LOG_v1
>>> {"time_micros": 1626998833819439, "job": 1, "event":
>>> "recovery_started", "log_files": [392088, 392132]}
>>>
>>> Jul 23 00:07:13 condor_sc0 container_name/ceph-osd-1[1709]:
>>> 2021-07-23T00:07:13.818+0000 7f3de111bf40  4 rocksdb:
>>> [db/db_impl_open.cc:583] Recovering log #392088 mode 0
>>>
>>> Jul 23 00:07:17 condor_sc0 container_name/ceph-osd-1[1709]:
>>> 2021-07-23T00:07:17.240+0000 7f3de111bf40  4 rocksdb:
>>> [db/db_impl_open.cc:583] Recovering log #392132 mode 0
>>>
>>> Jul 23 00:07:17 condor_sc0 container_name/ceph-osd-1[1709]:
>>> 2021-07-23T00:07:17.486+0000 7f3de111bf40  4 rocksdb: EVENT_LOG_v1
>>> {"time_micros": 1626998837486404, "job": 1, "event":
>>> "recovery_finished"}
>>>
>>> Jul 23 00:07:17 condor_sc0 container_name/ceph-osd-1[1709]:
>>> 2021-07-23T00:07:17.486+0000 7f3de111bf40  1
>>> bluestore(/var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-1) _open_db opened rocksdb path db
>>> options
>>> compression=kNoCompression,max_write_buffer_number=4,min_write_buffer
>>> _
>>> number_to_merge=1,recycle_log_file_num=4,write_buffer_size=268435456,
>>> w
>>> ritable_file_max_buffer_size=0,compaction_readahead_size=2097152,max_
>>> b
>>> ackground_compactions=2
>>>
>>> Jul 23 00:07:17 condor_sc0 container_name/ceph-osd-1[1709]:
>>> 2021-07-23T00:07:17.524+0000 7f3de111bf40  1 freelist init
>>>
>>> Jul 23 00:07:17 condor_sc0 container_name/ceph-osd-1[1709]:
>>> 2021-07-23T00:07:17.524+0000 7f3de111bf40  1 freelist
>>> _init_from_label
>>>
>>> Jul 23 00:07:17 condor_sc0 container_name/ceph-osd-1[1709]:
>>> 2021-07-23T00:07:17.529+0000 7f3de111bf40  1
>>> bluestore(/var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-1) _open_alloc opening allocation
>>> metadata
>>>
>>> Jul 23 00:07:18 condor_sc0 container_name/ceph-osd-1[1709]:
>>> 2021-07-23T00:07:18.238+0000 7f3de111bf40  1 HybridAllocator
>>> _spillover_range constructing fallback allocator
>>>
>>> Jul 23 00:07:20 condor_sc0 container_name/ceph-osd-1[1709]:
>>> 2021-07-23T00:07:20.563+0000 7f3de111bf40  1
>>> bluestore(/var/lib/ceph/osd/ceph-1) _open_alloc loaded 132 GiB in
>>> 2930776 extents available 113 GiB
>>>
>>> Jul 23 00:07:20 condor_sc0 container_name/ceph-osd-1[1709]:
>>> 2021-07-23T00:07:20.563+0000 7f3de111bf40  4 rocksdb:
>>> [db/db_impl.cc:390] Shutdown: canceling all background work
>>>
>>> Jul 23 00:07:20 condor_sc0 container_name/ceph-osd-1[1709]:
>>> 2021-07-23T00:07:20.565+0000 7f3de111bf40  4 rocksdb:
>>> [db/db_impl.cc:563] Shutdown complete
>>>
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