Seems like I accidentally only replied directly to Eugen, so here is my answer in case anyone encounters the same problem:

We were able to reproduce this issue, this is related to OSDs not catching up to the current epoch of the OSD map.

For the first few OSDs, restarting twice worked well, but then the OSD map of the cluster advanced too many epochs in the meanwhile, so there were a lot of restarts required for the last few OSDs (around 30 if i remember correctly).

It seems like for some reason the OSDs only advance 40 epochs on startup and then terminate. This caused the problem since some OSDs were at around epoch 9500 while the OSD map of the cluster already was at 12000 or something. So we needed to restart them around 30 times, before they finally caught up to the cluster state and started working again.

I wanted to do a more detailed writeup soon, but didn't get around to it yet sadly.


Eugen also thankfully pointed out to me that there is the configuration value 'osd_map_share_max_epochs' with default value 40 that seems to govern this behavior. Hopefully I will find some time next week to look into this, but this looks very promising at first glance.

Kind Regards
Stefan

On 1/27/23 09:11, Eugen Block wrote:
Hi,

what ceph version is this cluster running on? I tried the procedure you describe in a test cluster with 16.2.9 (cephadm) and all OSDs came up, although I had to start the containers twice (manually).

Regards,
Eugen

Zitat von Stefan Hanreich <s.hanre...@proxmox.com>:

We encountered the following problems while trying to perform maintenance on a Ceph cluster:

The cluster consists of 7 Nodes with 10 OSDs each.

There are 4 pools on it: 3 of them are replicated pools with 3/2 size/min_size and one is an erasure coded pool with m=2 and k=5.


The following global flags were set:

 * noout
 * norebalance
 * nobackfill
 * norecover

Then, after those flags were set, all OSDs were stopped via the command ceph osd stop, which seems to have caused the issue.

After maintenance was done, all OSDs were started again via systemctl. Only about half of the 70 OSDs in total started at first - while the other half started, but got killed after a few seconds with the following log messages:

ceph-osd[197270]: 2023-01-24T13:39:12.103+0100 7ff3fcf8d700 -1 osd.51 12161 map says i am stopped by admin. shutting down. ceph-osd[197270]: 2023-01-24T13:39:12.103+0100 7ff40da55700 -1 received  signal: Interrupt from Kernel ( Could be generated by pthread_kill(), raise(), abort(), alarm() ) UID: 0 ceph-osd[197270]: 2023-01-24T13:39:12.103+0100 7ff40da55700 -1 osd.51 12161 *** Got signal Interrupt *** ceph-osd[197270]: 2023-01-24T13:39:12.103+0100 7ff40da55700 -1 osd.51 12161 *** Immediate shutdown (osd_fast_shutdown=true) ***

And indeed, when looking into the osd map via ceph osd dump, the remaining OSDs seem to be marked as stopped:

osd.50 down out weight 0 up_from 9213 up_thru 9416 down_at 9760 last_clean_interval [9106,9207) [v2:10.0.1.61:6813/6211,v1:10.0.1.61:6818/6211] [v2:10.0.0.61:6814/6211,v1:10.0.0.61:6816/6211] exists,stop 9a2590c4-f50b-4550-bfd1-5aafb543cb59


We were able to restore some of the remaining OSDs via running

ceph out osd XX
ceph in osd XX

and then starting the service again (via systemctl start). This did work for most OSDs, except for the OSDs that are located on one specific host. Some OSDs required several restarts until they did not kill themselves a few seconds after starting.

This whole issue seems to be caused by the OSDs being marked as stopped in the OSD map [1]. Apparently this state should get reset when re-starting the OSD again [2], but for some reason this doesn't happen for some of the OSDs. This behavior seems to have been introduced via the following pull request [3]. We have also found the following commit where the logic regarding stop seemed to have been introduced [4].

We were looking into commands that reset the stopped status of the OSD in the OSD map, but did not find any way of forcing this.

Since we are out of ideas on how to proceed with the remaining 10 OSDs that cannot get brought up: How does one recover from this situation? It seems like by running ceph osd stop the cluster got in a state that seems irrecoverable with the normal CLI commands available. We even looked into the possibility of manually manipulating the osdmap via the osdmaptool, but there doesn't seem to be a way to edit the start/stopped status and it also seems like a very invasive procedure. There does not seem to be any way we can see of recovering from this, apart from rebuilding all the OSDs - which we refrained from for now.

Kind Regards
Hanreich Stefan


[1] https://github.com/ceph/ceph/blob/63a77b2c5b683cb241f865daec92c046152175b4/src/osd/OSD.cc#L8240

[2] https://github.com/ceph/ceph/blob/63a77b2c5b683cb241f865daec92c046152175b4/src/osd/OSDMap.cc#L2353

[3] https://github.com/ceph/ceph/pull/43664

[4] https://github.com/ceph/ceph/commit/5dbae13ce0f5b0104ab43e0ccfe94f832d0e1268
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