are there any volunteers willing to help make these python packages
available upstream?

On Tue, Mar 28, 2023 at 5:34 AM Ernesto Puerta <epuer...@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> Hey Ken,
>
> This change doesn't not involve any further internet access other than the 
> already required for the "make dist" stage (e.g.: npm packages). That said, 
> where feasible, I also prefer to keep the current approach for a minor 
> version.
>
> Kind Regards,
> Ernesto
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 27, 2023 at 9:06 PM Ken Dreyer <kdre...@redhat.com> wrote:
>>
>> I hope we don't backport such a big change to Quincy. That will have a
>> large impact on how we build in restricted environments with no
>> internet access.
>>
>> We could get the missing packages into EPEL.
>>
>> - Ken
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 24, 2023 at 7:32 AM Ernesto Puerta <epuer...@redhat.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi Casey,
>> >
>> > The original idea was to leave this to Reef alone, but given that the 
>> > CentOS 9 Quincy release is also blocked by missing Python packages, I 
>> > think that it'd make sense to backport it.
>> >
>> > I'm coordinating with Pere (in CC) to expedite this. We may need help to 
>> > troubleshoot Shaman/rpmbuild issues. Who would be the best one to help 
>> > with that?
>> >
>> > Regarding your last question, I don't know who's the maintainer of those 
>> > packages in EPEL. There's this BZ (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/2166620) 
>> > requesting that specific package, but that's only one out of the dozen of 
>> > missing packages (plus transitive dependencies)...
>> >
>> > Kind Regards,
>> > Ernesto
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, Mar 23, 2023 at 2:19 PM Casey Bodley <cbod...@redhat.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> hi Ernesto and lists,
>> >>
>> >> > [1] https://github.com/ceph/ceph/pull/47501
>> >>
>> >> are we planning to backport this to quincy so we can support centos 9
>> >> there? enabling that upgrade path on centos 9 was one of the
>> >> conditions for dropping centos 8 support in reef, which i'm still keen
>> >> to do
>> >>
>> >> if not, can we find another resolution to
>> >> https://tracker.ceph.com/issues/58832? as i understand it, all of
>> >> those python packages exist in centos 8. do we know why they were
>> >> dropped for centos 9? have we looked into making those available in
>> >> epel? (cc Ken and Kaleb)
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, Sep 2, 2022 at 12:01 PM Ernesto Puerta <epuer...@redhat.com> 
>> >> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > Hi Kevin,
>> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Isn't this one of the reasons containers were pushed, so that the 
>> >> >> packaging isn't as big a deal?
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Yes, but the Ceph community has a strong commitment to provide distro 
>> >> > packages for those users who are not interested in moving to containers.
>> >> >
>> >> >> Is it the continued push to support lots of distros without using 
>> >> >> containers that is the problem?
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > If not a problem, it definitely makes it more challenging. Compiled 
>> >> > components often sort this out by statically linking deps whose 
>> >> > packages are not widely available in distros. The approach we're 
>> >> > proposing here would be the closest equivalent to static linking for 
>> >> > interpreted code (bundling).
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks for sharing your questions!
>> >> >
>> >> > Kind regards,
>> >> > Ernesto
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