>>> It looks like the cap update request was dropped to the ground in MDS.
>>> [...]
>>> If you can reproduce it, then please provide the mds logs by setting:
>>> [...]
>> I can do a test with MDS logs on high level. Before I do that, looking at 
>> the python
>> findings above, is this something that should work on ceph or is it a python 
>> issue?
>
> Not sure yet. I need to understand what exactly shutil.copy does in kclient.

Thanks! Will wait for further instructions.
=================
Frank Schilder
AIT Risø Campus
Bygning 109, rum S14

________________________________________
From: Xiubo Li <xiu...@redhat.com>
Sent: Friday, November 10, 2023 3:14 AM
To: Frank Schilder; Gregory Farnum
Cc: ceph-users@ceph.io
Subject: Re: [ceph-users] Re: ceph fs (meta) data inconsistent


On 11/10/23 00:18, Frank Schilder wrote:
> Hi Xiubo,
>
> I will try to answer questions from all your 3 e-mails here together with 
> some new information we have.
>
> New: The problem occurs in newer python versions when using the shutil.copy 
> function. There is also a function shutil.copy2 for which the problem does 
> not show up. Copy2 behaves a bit like "cp -p" while copy is like "cp". The 
> only code difference (linux) between these 2 functions is that copy calls 
> copyfile+copymode while copy2 calls copyfile+copystat. For now we asked our 
> users to use copy2 to avoid the issue.
>
> The copyfile function calls _fastcopy_sendfile on linux, which in turn calls 
> os.sendfile, which seems to be part of libc:
>
> #include <sys/sendfile.h>
> ssize_t sendfile(int out_fd, int in_fd, off_t *offset, size_t count);
>
> I'm wondering if using this function requires explicit meta-data updates or 
> should be safe on ceph-fs. I'm also not sure if a user-space client even 
> supports this function (seems to be meaningless). Should this function be 
> safe to use on ceph kclient?

I didn't foresee any limit for this in kclient.

The shutil.copy will only copy the contents of the file, while the
shutil.copy2 will also copy the metadata. I need to know what exactly
they do in kclient for shutil.copy and shutil.copy2.

> Answers to questions:
>
>> BTW, have you test the ceph-fuse with the same test ? Is also the same ?
> I don't have fuse clients available, so can't test right now.
>
>> Have you tried other ceph version ?
> We are in the process of deploying a new test cluster, the old one is 
> scrapped already. I can't test this at the moment.
>
>> It looks like the cap update request was dropped to the ground in MDS.
>> [...]
>> If you can reproduce it, then please provide the mds logs by setting:
>> [...]
> I can do a test with MDS logs on high level. Before I do that, looking at the 
> python findings above, is this something that should work on ceph or is it a 
> python issue?

Not sure yet. I need to understand what exactly shutil.copy does in kclient.

Thanks

- Xiubo



>
> Thanks for your help!
> =================
> Frank Schilder
> AIT Risø Campus
> Bygning 109, rum S14
>
>

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