thanks for this info, but our purge queue is more or less empty
    "purge_queue": {
        "pq_executing_ops": 2,
        "pq_executing_ops_high_water": 13659,
        "pq_executing": 1,
        "pq_executing_high_water": 500,
        "pq_executed_ops": 127095,
        "pq_executed": 50471,
        "pq_item_in_journal": 2
    },

anyway, I raised the parameters to see if it helps.

Best,
Andrej


On 9. 6. 2026 14:57, Loïc Tortay via ceph-users wrote:
On 09/06/2026 14:10, Andrej Filipcic via ceph-users wrote:

Hi,

I have a problem with large amounts of dark data/orphans on cephfs data pool. Data is stored mostly on a 8+3 EC pool (cephfs_data_echdd).

There is ~5.6PiB stored on /ceph, shown by ceph.dir.rbytes with 132M files and 139M rentries. The pool shows 7PiB stored and 9.7PiB used consistent with 8+3 EC.
The layout for most files:
ceph.dir.layout="stripe_unit=16777216 stripe_count=1 object_size=16777216 pool=cephfs_data_echdd"

But there is 1.4PiB discrepancy between the pool and the filesystem which I cannot explain and I suspect there are a lot of orphan objects there. I have run mds scrub on / and ~mdsdir as well. There is some mds damage on some old small files (~400 files), which I do not think it's relevant here.

Hello,
We had a similar issue last year with a group of users that created and removed files at a very high rate.

Have you read https://docs.clyso.com/docs/kb/cephfs/#cephfs-pool-data-usage-growth-without-explanation ?

We increased the purge rate parameters (very) aggressively to get back to a comfortable situation (i.e. not a pool w/ near full warnings).


Loïc.


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