Hello Everyone

If you see ceph day presentation delivered by Sebastien ( slide number 23 )   
http://www.slideshare.net/Inktank_Ceph/ceph-performance

It looks like Firefly has dropped support to Journals , How concrete is this 
news ???


-Karan-


On 14 Mar 2014, at 15:35, Jake Young <[email protected]> wrote:

> You should take a look at this blog post:
> 
> http://ceph.com/community/ceph-performance-part-2-write-throughput-without-ssd-journals/
> 
> The test results shows that using a RAID card with a write-back cache without 
> journal disks can perform better or equivalent to using journal disks with 
> XFS. 
> 
> As to whether or not it’s better to buy expensive controllers and use all of 
> your drive bays for spinning disks or cheap controllers and use some portion 
> of your bays for SSDs/Journals, there are trade-offs.  If built right, 
> systems with SSD journals provide higher large block write throughput, while 
> putting journals on the data disks provides higher storage density.  Without 
> any tuning both solutions currently provide similar IOP throughput.
> 
> Jake
> 
> 
> On Friday, March 14, 2014, Markus Goldberg <[email protected]> wrote:
> Sorry,
> i should have asked a little bit clearer:
> Can ceph (or OSDs) be used without journals now ?
> The Journal-Parameter seems to be optional ( because of '[...]' )
> 
> Markus
> Am 14.03.2014 12:19, schrieb John Spray:
> Journals have not gone anywhere, and ceph-deploy still supports
> specifying them with exactly the same syntax as before.
> 
> The page you're looking at is the simplified "quick start", the detail
> on osd creation including journals is here:
> http://eu.ceph.com/docs/v0.77/rados/deployment/ceph-deploy-osd/
> 
> Cheers,
> John
> 
> On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 9:47 AM, Markus Goldberg
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi,
> i'm a little bit surprised. I read through the new manuals of 0.77
> (http://eu.ceph.com/docs/v0.77/start/quick-ceph-deploy/)
> In the section of creating the osd the manual says:
> 
> Then, from your admin node, use ceph-deploy to prepare the OSDs.
> 
> ceph-deploy osd prepare {ceph-node}:/path/to/directory
> 
> For example:
> 
> ceph-deploy osd prepare node2:/var/local/osd0 node3:/var/local/osd1
> 
> Finally, activate the OSDs.
> 
> ceph-deploy osd activate {ceph-node}:/path/to/directory
> 
> For example:
> 
> ceph-deploy osd activate node2:/var/local/osd0 node3:/var/local/osd1
> 
> 
> In former versions the osd was created like:
> 
> ceph-deploy -v --overwrite-conf osd --fs-type btrfs prepare
> bd-0:/dev/sdb:/dev/sda5
> 
> ^^^^^^^^^^ Journal
> As i remember defining and creating a journal for each osd was a must.
> 
> So the question is: Are Journals obsolet now ?
> 
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>    Markus Goldberg
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