For reference, I'm currently running 26 nodes (338 OSDs); will be 35
nodes (455 OSDs) in the near future.

Node/OSD provisioning and replacements:

Mostly I'm using ceph-deploy, at least to do node/osd adds and
replacements. Right now the process is:

Use FAI (http://fai-project.org) to setup software RAID1/LVM for the OS
disks, and do a minimal installation, including the salt-minion.

Accept the new minion on the salt-master node and deploy the
configuration. LDAP auth, nrpe, diamond collector, udev configuration,
custom python disk add script, and everything on the Ceph preflight page
(http://ceph.com/docs/firefly/start/quick-start-preflight/)

Insert the journals into the case. Udev triggers my python code, which
partitions the SSDs and fires a Prowl alert (http://www.prowlapp.com/)
to my phone when it's finished.

Insert the OSDs into the case. Same thing, udev triggers the python
code, which selects the next available partition on the journals so OSDs
go on journal1partA, journal2partA, journal3partA, journal1partB,... for
the three journals in each node. The code then fires a salt event at the
master node with the OSD dev path, journal /dev/by-id/ path and node
hostname. The salt reactor on the master node takes this event and runs
a script on the admin node which passes those parameters to ceph-deploy,
which does the OSD deployment. Send Prowl alert on success or fail with
details.

Similarity, when an OSD fails, I remove it, and insert the new OSD. The
same process as above occurs. Logical removal I do manually, since I'm
not at a scale where it's common yet. Eventually, I imagine I'll write
code to trigger OSD removal on certain events using the same
event/reactor Salt framework.

Pool/CRUSH management:

Pool configuration and CRUSH management are mostly one-time operations.
That is, I'll make a change rarely and when I do it will persist in that
new state for a long time. Given that and the fact that I can make the
changes from one node and inject them into the cluster, I haven't needed
to automate that portion of Ceph as I've added more nodes, at least not yet.

Replacing journals:

I haven't had to do this yet; I'd probably remove/readd all the OSDs if
it happened today, but will be reading the post you linked.

Upgrading releases:

Change the configuration of /etc/apt/source.list.d/ceph.list to point at
new release and push to all the nodes with Salt. Then salt -N 'ceph'
pkg.upgrade to upgrade the packages on all the nodes in the ceph
nodegroup. Then, use Salt to restart the monitors, then the OSDs on each
node, one by one. Finally run the following command on all nodes with
Salt to verify all monitors/OSDs are using the new version:

for i in $(ls /var/run/ceph/ceph-*.asok);do echo $i;ceph --admin-daemon
$i version;done

Node decommissioning:

I have a script which enumerates all the OSDs on a given host and stores
that list in a file. Another script (run by cron every 10 minutes)
checks if the cluster health is OK, and if so pops the next OSD from
that file and executes the steps to remove it from the host, trickling
the node out of service.




On 04/17/2015 02:18 PM, Craig Lewis wrote:
> I'm running a small cluster, but I'll chime in since nobody else has.
>
> Cern had a presentation a while ago (dumpling time-frame) about their
> deployment.  They go over some of your
> questions: http://www.slideshare.net/Inktank_Ceph/scaling-ceph-at-cern
>
> My philosophy on Config Management is that it should save me time.  If
> it's going to take me longer to write a recipe to do something, I'll
> just do it by hand. Since my cluster is small, there are many things I
> can do faster by hand.  This may or may not work for you, depending on
> your documentation / repeatability requirements.  For things that need
> to be documented, I'll usually write the recipe anyway (I accept Chef
> recipes as documentation).
>
>
> For my clusters, I'm using Chef to setups all nodes and manage
> ceph.conf.  I manually manage my pools, CRUSH map, RadosGW users, and
> disk replacement.  I was using Chef to add new disks, but I ran into
> load problems due to my small cluster size.  I'm currently adding
> disks manually, to manage cluster load better.  As my cluster gets
> larger, that'll be less important.
>
> I'm also doing upgrades manually, because it's less work than writing
> the Chef recipe to do a cluster upgrade.  Since Chef isn't cluster
> aware, it would be a a pain to make the recipe cluster aware enough to
> handle the upgrade.  And I figure if I stall long enough, somebody
> else will write it :-)  Ansible, with it's cluster wide coordination,
> looks like it would handle that a bit better.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 2:05 PM, Stillwell, Bryan
> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
>     I'm curious what people managing larger ceph clusters are doing with
>     configuration management and orchestration to simplify their lives?
>
>     We've been using ceph-deploy to manage our ceph clusters so far, but
>     feel that moving the management of our clusters to standard tools
>     would
>     provide a little more consistency and help prevent some mistakes that
>     have happened while using ceph-deploy.
>
>     We're looking at using the same tools we use in our OpenStack
>     environment (puppet/ansible), but I'm interested in hearing from
>     people
>     using chef/salt/juju as well.
>
>     Some of the cluster operation tasks that I can think of along with
>     ideas/concerns I have are:
>
>     Keyring management
>       Seems like hiera-eyaml is a natural fit for storing the keyrings.
>
>     ceph.conf
>       I believe the puppet ceph module can be used to manage this
>     file, but
>       I'm wondering if using a template (erb?) might be better method to
>       keeping it organized and properly documented.
>
>     Pool configuration
>       The puppet module seems to be able to handle managing replicas
>     and the
>       number of placement groups, but I don't see support for erasure
>     coded
>       pools yet.  This is probably something we would want the initial
>       configuration to be set up by puppet, but not something we would
>     want
>       puppet changing on a production cluster.
>
>     CRUSH maps
>       Describing the infrastructure in yaml makes sense.  Things like
>     which
>       servers are in which rows/racks/chassis.  Also describing the
>     type of
>       server (model, number of HDDs, number of SSDs) makes sense.
>
>     CRUSH rules
>       I could see puppet managing the various rules based on the backend
>       storage (HDD, SSD, primary affinity, erasure coding, etc).
>
>     Replacing a failed HDD disk
>       Do you automatically identify the new drive and start using it right
>       away?  I've seen people talk about using a combination of udev and
>       special GPT partition IDs to automate this.  If you have a cluster
>       with thousands of drives I think automating the replacement makes
>       sense.  How do you handle the journal partition on the SSD?  Does
>       removing the old journal partition and creating a new one create a
>       hole in the partition map (because the old partition is removed and
>       the new one is created at the end of the drive)?
>
>     Replacing a failed SSD journal
>       Has anyone automated recreating the journal drive using Sebastien
>       Han's instructions, or do you have to rebuild all the OSDs as well?
>
>
>     
> http://www.sebastien-han.fr/blog/2014/11/27/ceph-recover-osds-after-ssd-jou
>     rnal-failure/
>     
> <http://www.sebastien-han.fr/blog/2014/11/27/ceph-recover-osds-after-ssd-jou%0Arnal-failure/>
>
>     Adding new OSD servers
>       How are you adding multiple new OSD servers to the cluster?  I could
>       see an ansible playbook which disables nobackfill, noscrub, and
>       nodeep-scrub followed by adding all the OSDs to the cluster being
>       useful.
>
>     Upgrading releases
>       I've found an ansible playbook for doing a rolling upgrade which
>     looks
>       like it would work well, but are there other methods people are
>     using?
>
>
>     
> http://www.sebastien-han.fr/blog/2015/03/30/ceph-rolling-upgrades-with-ansi
>     ble/
>     
> <http://www.sebastien-han.fr/blog/2015/03/30/ceph-rolling-upgrades-with-ansi%0Able/>
>
>     Decommissioning hardware
>       Seems like another ansible playbook for reducing the OSDs weights to
>       zero, marking the OSDs out, stopping the service, removing the
>     OSD ID,
>       removing the CRUSH entry, unmounting the drives, and finally
>     removing
>       the server would be the best method here.  Any other ideas on how to
>       approach this?
>
>
>     That's all I can think of right now.  Is there any other tasks that
>     people have run into that are missing from this list?
>
>     Thanks,
>     Bryan
>
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