Hi 

I have been testing the Samsung 840 Pro (128gb) for quite sometime and I can 
also confirm that this drive is unsuitable for osd journal. The performance and 
latency that I get from these drives (according to ceph osd perf) are between 
10 - 15 times slower compared to the Intel 520. The Intel 530 drives are also 
pretty awful. They are meant to be a replacement of the 520 drives, but the 
performance is pretty bad. 

I have found Intel 520 to be a reasonable drive for performance per price, for 
a cluster without a great deal of writes. However they do not make those 
anymore. 

Otherwise, it seems that the Intel 3600 and 3700 series is a good performer and 
has a much longer life expectancy. 

Andrei 
----- Original Message -----

> From: "Eneko Lacunza" <[email protected]>
> To: "J-P Methot" <[email protected]>, "Christian Balzer"
> <[email protected]>, [email protected]
> Sent: Tuesday, 21 April, 2015 8:18:20 AM
> Subject: Re: [ceph-users] Possible improvements for a slow write
> speed (excluding independent SSD journals)

> Hi,

> I'm just writing to you to stress out what others have already said,
> because it is very important that you take it very seriously.

> On 20/04/15 19:17, J-P Methot wrote:
> > On 4/20/2015 11:01 AM, Christian Balzer wrote:
> >>
> >>> This is similar to another thread running right now, but since
> >>> our
> >>> current setup is completely different from the one described in
> >>> the
> >>> other thread, I thought it may be better to start a new one.
> >>>
> >>> We are running Ceph Firefly 0.80.8 (soon to be upgraded to
> >>> 0.80.9). We
> >>> have 6 OSD hosts with 16 OSD each (so a total of 96 OSDs). Each
> >>> OSD
> >>> is a
> >>> Samsung SSD 840 EVO on which I can reach write speeds of roughly
> >>> 400
> >>> MB/sec, plugged in jbod on a controller that can theoretically
> >>> transfer
> >>> at 6gb/sec. All of that is linked to openstack compute nodes on
> >>> two
> >>> bonded 10gbps links (so a max transfer rate of 20 gbps).
> >>>
> >> I sure as hell hope you're not planning to write all that much to
> >> this
> >> cluster.
> >> But then again you're worried about write speed, so I guess you
> >> do.
> >> Those _consumer_ SSDs will be dropping like flies, there are a
> >> number of
> >> threads about them here.
> >>
> >> They also might be of the kind that don't play well with O_DSYNC,
> >> I
> >> can't
> >> recall for sure right now, check the archives.
> >> Consumer SSDs universally tend to slow down quite a bit when not
> >> TRIM'ed
> >> and/or subjected to prolonged writes, like those generated by a
> >> benchmark.
> > I see, yes it looks like these SSDs are not the best for the job.
> > We
> > will not change them for now, but if they start failing, we will
> > replace them with better ones.
> I tried to put a Samsung 840 Pro 256GB in a ceph setup. It is
> supposed
> to be quite better than the EVO right? It was total crap. No "not the
> best for the job". TOTAL CRAP. :)

> It can't give any useful write performance for a Ceph OSD. Spec sheet
> numbers don't matter for this, they don't work for ceph OSD, period.
> And
> yes, the drive is fine and works like a charm in workstation
> workloads.

> I suggest you at least get some intel S3700/S3610 and use them for
> the
> journal of those samsung drives, I think that could help performance
> a lot.

> Cheers
> Eneko

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