Have you tried just running “sync;sync” on the originating node? Does that 
achieve the same thing or not? (I guess it could/should).

Jan


> On 16 Jun 2015, at 13:37, negillen negillen <negil...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Thanks again,
> 
> even 'du' performance is terrible on node B (testing on a directory taken 
> from Phoronix):
> 
> # time du -hs /storage/test9/installed-tests/pts/pgbench-1.5.1/
> 73M     /storage/test9/installed-tests/pts/pgbench-1.5.1/
> real    0m21.044s
> user    0m0.010s
> sys     0m0.067s
> 
> 
> Reading the files from node B doesn't seem to help with subsequent accesses 
> in this case:
> 
> # time tar c /storage/test9/installed-tests/pts/pgbench-1.5.1/>/dev/null
> real    1m47.650s
> user    0m0.041s
> sys     0m0.212s
> 
> # time tar c /storage/test9/installed-tests/pts/pgbench-1.5.1/>/dev/null
> real    1m45.636s
> user    0m0.042s
> sys     0m0.214s
> 
> # time ls -laR /storage/test9/installed-tests/pts/pgbench-1.5.1>/dev/null
> 
> real    1m43.180s
> user    0m0.069s
> sys     0m0.236s
> 
> 
> Of course, once I dismount the CephFS on node A everything gets as fast as it 
> can be.
> 
> Am I missing something obvious here?
> Yes I could drop the Linux cache as a 'fix' but that would drop the entire 
> system's cache, sounds a bit extreme! :P 
> Unless is there a way to drop the cache only for that single dir...?
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 12:15 PM, Gregory Farnum <g...@gregs42.com 
> <mailto:g...@gregs42.com>> wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 12:11 PM, negillen negillen <negil...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:negil...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> > Thank you very much for your reply!
> >
> > Is there anything I can do to go around that? e.g. setting access caps to be
> > released after a short while? Or is there a command to manually release
> > access caps (so that I could run it in cron)?
> 
> Well, you can drop the caches. ;)
> 
> More generally, you're running into a specific hole here. If your
> clients are actually *accessing* the files then they should go into
> shared mode and this will be much faster on subsequent accesses.
> 
> > This is quite a problem because we have several applications that need to
> > access a large number of files and when we set them to work on CephFS
> > latency skyrockets.
> 
> What kind of shared-file access do they have? If you have a bunch of
> files being shared for read I'd expect this to be very fast. If
> different clients are writing small amounts to them in round-robin
> then that's unfortunately not going to work well. :(
> -Greg
> 
> >
> > Thanks again and regards.
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 10:59 AM, Gregory Farnum <g...@gregs42.com 
> > <mailto:g...@gregs42.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >> On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 11:34 AM, negillen negillen <negil...@gmail.com 
> >> <mailto:negil...@gmail.com>>
> >> wrote:
> >> > Hello everyone,
> >> >
> >> > something very strange is driving me crazy with CephFS (kernel driver).
> >> > I copy a large directory on the CephFS from one node. If I try to
> >> > perform a
> >> > 'time ls -alR' on that directory it gets executed in less than one
> >> > second.
> >> > If I try to do the same 'time ls -alR' from another node it takes
> >> > several
> >> > minutes. No matter how many times I repeat the command, the speed is
> >> > always
> >> > abysmal. The ls works fine on the node where the initial copy was
> >> > executed
> >> > from. This happens with any directory I have tried, no matter what kind
> >> > of
> >> > data is inside.
> >> >
> >> > After lots of experimenting I have found that in order to have fast ls
> >> > speed
> >> > for that dir from every node I need to flush the Linux cache on the
> >> > original
> >> > node:
> >> > echo 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches
> >> > Unmounting and remounting the CephFS on that node does the trick too.
> >> >
> >> > Anyone has a clue about what's happening here? Could this be a problem
> >> > with
> >> > the writeback fscache for the CephFS?
> >> >
> >> > Any help appreciated! Thanks and regards. :)
> >>
> >> This is a consequence of the CephFS "file capabilities" that we use to
> >> do distributed locking on file states. When you copy the directory on
> >> client A, it has full capabilities on the entire tree. When client B
> >> tries to do a stat on each file in that tree, it doesn't have any
> >> capabilities. So it sends a stat request to the MDS, which sends a cap
> >> update to client A requiring it to pause updates on the file and share
> >> its current state. Then the MDS tells client A it can keep going and
> >> sends the stat to client B.
> >> So that's:
> >> B -> MDS
> >> MDS -> A
> >> A -> MDS
> >> MDS -> B | MDS -> A
> >> for every file you touch.
> >>
> >> I think the particular oddity you're encountering here is that CephFS
> >> generally tries not to make clients drop their "exclusive" access caps
> >> just to satisfy a stat. If you had client B doing something with the
> >> files (like reading them) you would probably see different behavior.
> >> I'm not sure if there's something effective we can do here or not
> >> (it's just a bunch of heuristics when we should or should not drop
> >> caps), but please file a bug on the tracker (tracker.ceph.com 
> >> <http://tracker.ceph.com/>) with
> >> this case. :)
> >> -Greg
> >
> >
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