Hi Somnath,
Yes, We will analyze is there any bottleneck, do we have any
valuable command to analyze this bottleneck.
>> 1. What is your backend cluster configuration like how many OSDs,
PGs/pool, HW details etc
We are using 2 OSD and there is no PGs/Pool created , it is default.
Hardware is physical machine above 2 GB RAM.
>>2. Is it a single big rbd image you mounted from different hosts and
running OCFS2 on top ? Please give some details on that front.
Yes, It is single rbd image we are using in different hosts and
running OCFS2 on top
rbd ls
newinteg
rbd showmapped
id pool image snap device
1 rbd newinteg - /dev/rbd1
rbd info newinteg
rbd image 'newinteg':
size 70000 MB in 17500 objects
order 22 (4096 kB objects)
block_name_prefix: rb.0.1149.74b0dc51
format: 1
>> 3. Also, is this HDD or SSD setup ? If HDD, hope you have journals on
SSD.
Hope so this HDD and below is the out put for disk.
*-ide
description: IDE interface
product: 82371SB PIIX3 IDE [Natoma/Triton II]
vendor: Intel Corporation
physical id: 1.1
bus info: pci@0000:00:01.1
version: 00
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: ide bus_master
configuration: driver=ata_piix latency=0
resources: irq:0 ioport:1f0(size=8) ioport:3f6 ioport:170(size=8)
ioport:376 ioport:c000(size=16)
*-scsi
description: SCSI storage controller
product: Virtio block device
vendor: Red Hat, Inc
physical id: 4
bus info: pci@0000:00:04.0
version: 00
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: scsi msix bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=virtio-pci latency=0
resources: irq:11 ioport:c080(size=64) memory:f2040000-f2040fff
Regards
Prabu GJ
---- On Tue, 16 Jun 2015 21:50:29 +0530 Somnath Roy
<somnath....@sandisk.com> wrote ----
Okay…I think the extra layers you have will add some delay, but 1m is high
probably (I never tested Ceph on HDD though).
We can minimize it probably by optimizing the cluster setup.
Please monitor your backend cluster or even the rbd nodes to see if anything
is bottleneck there.
Also, check if there is any delay between you are issuing request on OCFS2/rbd
getting that/cluster getting that.
Could you please share the following details ?
1. What is your backend cluster configuration like how many OSDs, PGs/pool, HW
details etc.
2. Is it a single big rbd image you mounted from different hosts and running
OCFS2 on top ? Please give some details on that front.
3. Also, is this HDD or SSD setup ? If HDD, hope you have journals on SSD.
Thanks & Regards
Somnath
From: gjprabu [mailto:gjpr...@zohocorp.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 1:57 AM
To: Somnath Roy
Cc: Kamala Subramani ; ceph-users@lists.ceph.com; Siva Sokkumuthu
Subject: RE: Re: [ceph-users] Ceph OSD with OCFS2
Somnath ,
Yes , we are cloning repository in ceph client shared directory.
Please refer the time analyzation
Ceph Client Shared Directory :
[s...@cephclient2.csez.zohocorpin.com~/ceph/]$ time git clone
https://github.com/elastic/elasticsearch.git
Cloning into 'elasticsearch'...
remote: Counting objects: 373468, done.
remote: Compressing objects: 100% (76/76), done.
remote: Total 373468 (delta 66), reused 20 (delta 20), pack-reused 373371
Receiving objects: 100% (373468/373468), 137.56 MiB | 7.10 MiB/s, done.
Resolving deltas: 100% (210489/210489), done.
Checking connectivity... done.
Checking out files: 100% (5531/5531), done.
real 1m2.154s
user 0m26.315s
sys 0m20.017s
Not Shared Directory :
[s...@cephclient2.csez.zohocorpin.com~/test]$ time git clone
https://github.com/elastic/elasticsearch.git
Cloning into 'elasticsearch'...
remote: Counting objects: 373594, done.
remote: Compressing objects: 100% (172/172), done.
remote: Total 373594 (delta 104), reused 20 (delta 20), pack-reused 373399
Receiving objects: 100% (373594/373594), 137.65 MiB | 8.30 MiB/s, done.
Resolving deltas: 100% (210550/210550), done.
real 0m37.878s
user 0m20.061s
sys 0m3.049s
FYI :
Not only clone - repository operation like checkout , update , fetch command
also getting delayed .
Regards
Prabu
---- On Tue, 16 Jun 2015 10:35:32 +0530 Somnath
Roy<somnath....@sandisk.com> wrote ----
Prabu,
I am still not clear..
You are cloning git source repository on top of RBD + OCFS2 and that is taking
extra time ?
Thanks & Regards
Somnath
From: gjprabu [mailto:gjpr...@zohocorp.com]
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 9:39 PM
To: gjprabu
Cc: Somnath Roy; Kamala Subramani ; ceph-users@lists.ceph.com; Siva
Sokkumuthu
Subject: Re: Re: [ceph-users] Ceph OSD with OCFS2
Hi Somnath,
Is there any fine tune for the blow issues.
<< Also please let us know the reason ( Extra 2-3 mins is taken for hg /
git repository operation like clone , pull , checkout and update.)
<< Could you please explain a bit what you are trying to do here ?
In ceph shared directory , we will clone source repository then will
access the same from ceph client .
Regards
Prabu
---- On Mon, 15 Jun 2015 17:16:11 +0530 gjprabu <gjpr...@zohocorp.com>
wrote ----
Hi
The size differ issue is solved, This is related to ocfs2 format option
and -C count should be 4K.
(mkfs.ocfs2 /dev/mapper/mpatha -N 64 -b 4K -C 256K -T mail
--fs-features=extended-slotmap --fs-feature-level=max-features -L )
Need to change like below.
(mkfs.ocfs2 /dev/mapper/mpatha -b4K -C 4K -L label -T mail -N 2 /dev/sdX
<< Also please let us know the reason ( Extra 2-3 mins is taken for hg /
git repository operation like clone , pull , checkout and update.)
<< Could you please explain a bit what you are trying to do here ?
In ceph shared directory , we will clone source repository then will
access the same from ceph client .
Regards
Prabu
---- On Fri, 12 Jun 2015 21:12:03 +0530 Somnath Roy
<somnath....@sandisk.com> wrote ----
Sorry, it was a typo , I meant to say 1GB only.
I would say break the problem like the following.
1. Run some fio workload say (1G) on RBD and run ceph command like ‘ceph df’
to see how much data it written. I am sure you will be seeing same data.
Remember by default ceph rados object size is 4MB, so, it should write 1GB/4MB
number of objects.
2. Also, you can use ‘rados’ utility to directly put/get say 1GB file to the
cluster and check similar way.
As I said, if your journal in the same device and if you measure the space
consumed by entire OSD mount point , it will be more because of WA induced by
Ceph. But, individual file size you transferred should not differ.
<< Also please let us know the reason ( Extra 2-3 mins is taken for hg /
git repository operation like clone , pull , checkout and update.)
Could you please explain a bit what you are trying to do here ?
Thanks & Regards
Somnath
From: gjprabu [mailto:gjpr...@zohocorp.com]
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015 12:34 AM
To: Somnath Roy
Cc: ceph-users@lists.ceph.com; Kamala Subramani ; Siva Sokkumuthu
Subject: Re: RE: RE: [ceph-users] Ceph OSD with OCFS2
Hi,
I measured the data only what i transfered from client. Example 500MB
file transfered after complete if i measured the same file size will be 1GB not
10GB.
Our Configuration is :-
=============================================================================================
ceph -w
cluster f428f5d6-7323-4254-9f66-56a21b099c1a
health HEALTH_OK
monmap e1: 3 mons at
{cephadmin=172.20.19.235:6789/0,cephnode1=172.20.7.168:6789/0,cephnode2=172.20.9.41:6789/0},
election epoch 114, quorum 0,1,2 cephnode1,cephnode2,cephadmin
osdmap e9: 2 osds: 2 up, 2 in
pgmap v1022: 64 pgs, 1 pools, 7507 MB data, 1952 objects
26139 MB used, 277 GB / 302 GB avail
64 active+clean
===============================================================================================
ceph.conf
[global]
osd pool default size = 2
auth_service_required = cephx
filestore_xattr_use_omap = true
auth_client_required = cephx
auth_cluster_required = cephx
mon_host = 172.20.7.168,172.20.9.41,172.20.19.235
mon_initial_members = zoho-cephnode1, zoho-cephnode2, zoho-cephadmin
fsid = f428f5d6-7323-4254-9f66-56a21b099c1a
================================================================================================
What is the replication policy you are using ?
We are using default OSD with 2 replica not using CRUSH Map, PG num and
Erasure etc.,
What interface you used to store the data ?
We are using RBD to store data and its has been mounted with OCFS2 in
client side.
How are you removing data ? Are you removing a rbd image ?
We are not removing rbd image, only removing data which is already
having and removing using rm command from client. We didn't set async way to
transfer or remove data
Also please let us know the reason ( Extra 2-3 mins is taken for hg / git
repository operation like clone , pull , checkout and update.)
Regards
Prabu GJ
---- On Fri, 12 Jun 2015 00:21:24 +0530 Somnath Roy
<somnath....@sandisk.com> wrote ----
Hi,
Ceph journal works in different way. It’s a write ahead journal, all the data
will be persisted first in journal and then will be written to actual place.
Journal data is encoded. Journal is a fixed size partition/file and written
sequentially. So, if you are placing journal in HDDs, it will be overwritten,
for SSD case , it will be GC later. So, if you are measuring amount of data
written to the device it will be double. But, if you are saying you have
written a 500MB file to cluster and you are seeing the actual file size is 10G,
it should not be the case. How are you seeing this size BTW ?
Could you please tell us more about your configuration ?
What is the replication policy you are using ?
What interface you used to store the data ?
Regarding your other query..
<< If i transfer 1GB data, what will be server size(OSD), Is this will
write compressed format
No, actual data is not compressed. You don’t want to fill up OSD disk and
there are some limits you can set . Check the following link
http://ceph.com/docs/master/rados/troubleshooting/troubleshooting-osd/
It will stop working if the disk is 95% full by default.
<< Is it possible to take backup from server compressed data and copy
the same to other machine as Server_Backup - then start new client using
Server_Backup
For backup, check the following link if that works for you.
https://ceph.com/community/blog/tag/backup/
Also, you can use RGW federated config for back up.
<< Data removal is very slow
How are you removing data ? Are you removing a rbd image ?
If you are removing entire pool , that should be fast and do deletes data
async way I guess.
Thanks & Regards
Somnath
From: gjprabu [mailto:gjpr...@zohocorp.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2015 6:38 AM
To: Somnath Roy
Cc: ceph-users@lists.ceph.com; Kamala Subramani; Siva Sokkumuthu
Subject: Re: RE: [ceph-users] Ceph OSD with OCFS2
Hi Team,
Once data transfer completed the journal file should convert all memory
data's to real places but our cause it showing double of the size after
complete transfer, Here everyone will confuse what is real file and folder
size. Also What will happen If i move the monitoring from that osd server to
separately, is the double size issue may solve ?
We have below query also.
1. Extra 2-3 mins is taken for hg / git repository operation like clone ,
pull , checkout and update.
2. If i transfer 1GB data, what will be server size(OSD), Is this will write
compressed format.
3 . Is it possible to take backup from server compressed data and copy the
same to other machine as Server_Backup - then start new client using
Server_Backup.
4. Data removal is very slow.
Regards
Prabu
---- On Fri, 05 Jun 2015 21:55:28 +0530 Somnath Roy
<somnath....@sandisk.com> wrote ----
Yes, Ceph will be writing twice , one for journal and one for actual data.
Considering you configured journal in the same device , this is what you end up
seeing if you are monitoring the device BW.
Thanks & Regards
Somnath
From: ceph-users [mailto:ceph-users-boun...@lists.ceph.com] On Behalf Of
gjprabu
Sent: Friday, June 05, 2015 3:07 AM
To: ceph-users@lists.ceph.com
Cc: Kamala Subramani; Siva Sokkumuthu
Subject: [ceph-users] Ceph OSD with OCFS2
Dear Team,
We are newly using ceph with two OSD and two clients. Both clients are
mounted with OCFS2 file system. Here suppose i transfer 500MB of data in the
client its showing double of the size 1GB after finish data transfer. Is the
behavior is correct or is there any solution for this.
Regards
Prabu
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