We are running NVMe Intel P3700's as journals for about 8 months now.    1x
P3700 per 6x OSD.

So far they have been reliable.

We are using S3700, S3710 and P3700 as journals and there is _currently_ no
real benefit of the P3700 over the SATA units as journals for Ceph.


Regards,



Andrew

On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 10:12 PM, Christian Balzer <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> Hello,
>
> On Tue, 7 Jul 2015 09:51:56 +0000 Van Leeuwen, Robert wrote:
>
> > > I'm wondering if anyone is using NVME SSDs for journals?
> > > Intel 750 series 400GB NVME SSD offers good performance and price in
> > > comparison to let say Intel S3700 400GB.
> > > http://ark.intel.com/compare/71915,86740 My concern would be MTBF /
> > > TBW which is only 1.2M hours and 70GB per day for 5yrs or 127 TBW.
> > > Intel 750 1.2TB has a slightly better 219 TBW but still it can be a
> > > bit too low for some people. Thoughts?
> >
> This has of course been already discussed here, when those SSDs were
> initially released.
>
> Basically what Robert wrote already.
>
> The 750s are blazingly fast, much faster in fact that I see current
> versions of Ceph taking full advantage of.
> One would be tempted to put a lot of journals on them and thus wear them
> out quickly.
>
> Calculate the TBW/$ of them versus high endurance 3700s or even 3610s in
> the middle of the field.
> Unless you know PRECISELY what your workload is going to be, go with the
> next more durable model. ^o^
>
> Christian
>
> > Do not think this would be a good choice:
> > These have about 0.2 Drive Writes Per Day.
> > At my previous employer we used one 300GB Intel S3500 (0.3 DWPD) as a
> > journal per 5 X 1TB 7200RPM disk. The cluster was not heavily used and
> > burned through that SSD in a year.
> >
> > As you mentioned getting bigger SSDs will help a bit since you have more
> > NAND chips to spread the load around. It is still more cost efficient to
> > go for a smaller S3700 series though. E.g. The Intel 750, 1.2TB costs
> > more then a 400GB S3700 and has a lot less endurance (about 200GB per
> > day vs 4TB per day)
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Robert van Leeuwen
>
>
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