On 02-11-15 11:56, Jan Schermer wrote:
> Can those hints be disabled somehow? I was battling XFS preallocation
> the other day, and the mount option didn't make any difference - maybe
> because those hints have precedence (which could mean they aren't
> working as they should), maybe not.
> 

This config option?

OPTION(rbd_enable_alloc_hint, OPT_BOOL, true) // when writing a object,
it will issue a hint to osd backend to indicate the expected size object
need

Found in src/common/config_opts.h

Wido

> In particular, when you fallocate a file, some number of blocks will be
> reserved without actually allocating the blocks. When you then dirty a
> block with write and flush, metadata needs to be written (in journal,
> synchronously) <- this is slow with all drives, and extremely slow with
> sh*tty drives (doing benchmark on such a file will yield just 100 write
> IOPs, but when you allocate the file previously with dd if=/dev/zero it
> will have 6000 IOPs!) - and there doesn't seem to be a way to disable it
> in XFS. Not sure if hints should help or if they are actually causing
> the problem (I am not clear on whether they preallocate metadata blocks
> or just block count). Ext4 does the same thing.
> 
> Might be worth looking into?
> 
> Jan
> 
> 
>> On 31 Oct 2015, at 19:36, Gregory Farnum <gfar...@redhat.com
>> <mailto:gfar...@redhat.com>> wrote:
>>
>> On Friday, October 30, 2015, mad Engineer <themadengin...@gmail.com
>> <mailto:themadengin...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>     i am learning ceph,block storage and read that each object size is
>>     4 Mb.I am not clear about the concepts of object storage still
>>     what will happen if the actual size of data written to block is
>>     less than 4 Mb lets say 1 Mb.Will it still create object with 4 mb
>>     size and keep the rest of the space free and unusable?
>>
>>
>> No, it will only take up as much space as you write (plus some
>> metadata). Although I think RBD passes down io hints suggesting the
>> object's final size will be 4MB so that the underlying storage (eg
>> xfs) can prevent fragmentation.
>> -Greg
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