I will read your cache thread, thnx.

Now we have the following setup in mind:
X10SRH-CLN4F
E5-2620v4
32GB/64GB RAM
6x 2TB (start with 4 drives)
1x S3710 200GB for Journaling
In the future adding 2 SSD's for caching, or is it an option to use a P3700
400GB (or two) for journaling and caching ?

Kind regards,
Tom


On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 2:46 PM, Christian Balzer <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> Hello,
>
> On Mon, 1 Aug 2016 14:34:43 +0200 Tom T wrote:
>
> > Hi Christian,
> >
> > Thnx for your reply.
> >
> > Case:
> > CSE-825TQC-600LPB
> >
> > I made a typo with the CPU, it's a E3-1240 v5 3.5Ghz.
> > So a E5-2620 v4 is recommended when i want to add SSD for caching ?
> >
> It's more a question of core count (and speed per core), an E5-1650 v3 for
> example would do the trick (in all situations) with 4 HDD OSDs with SSD
> journal and 1-2 SSD OSDs.
>
> > With a caching tier, is the data on the caching tier a copy from data on
> > the normal tier ?
> You want to re-read the respective documentation and the various threads
> on this ML about cache tiering, including my
> "Cache tier operation clarifications" one.
>
> In a reasonably busy cluster a cache pool will be very different from the
> base pool and some hot data may never reach the base pool, ever.
>
> Meaning that your cache pool needs to be just as reliable as everything
> else.
>
> > Is a caching tier with one SSD recommended or should i always have two
> SSD
> > in replicated mode ?
> >
> See above.
>
> Christian
> >
> > Kind regards,
> > Tom
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 2:00 PM, Christian Balzer <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > On Mon, 1 Aug 2016 11:09:00 +0200 Tom T wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Ceph users
> > > >
> > > > We are planning to setup a small ceph cluster, starting with 3 nodes
> for
> > > > VM's.
> > > > I have some question about CPU and caching
> > > >
> > > > We would like to start with the following config:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Supermicro X11SSI-LN4F
> > > In which case?
> > >
> > > > Intel E3-1246 v3 3.5Ghz
> > > A bit dated, but fast enough.
> > >
> > > > 32GB RAM
> > > While enough for 4 OSDs, don't skimp on RAM if you can afford, reads
> will
> > > thank you for it.
> > >
> > > > S3500 80GB M.2 for OS
> > > If you're short on money, maybe use a 535 (or 2!) for that purpose.
> > >
> > > > AOC-S3008L-L8e (LSI SAS3008)
> > > > 4x 2TB ST2000NM0034 SAS12Gb
> > >
> > > I fail to see the need/point for 7.2k RPM HDDs with a mere 128MB of
> cache
> > > hanging of a 12Gb/s bus, but maybe that's just me.
> > >
> > > > 1x Intel 200GB S3710 for journal (via onboard SATA)
> > > Good enough.
> > >
> > > > 4x 1Gb for networking
> > > >
> > > Unless all your clients also are limited to GbE and you have no budget
> to
> > > change that, don't.
> > >
> > > For VM's latency will be one of your biggest nemesis (nemesii?), use
> > > faster (lower latency) networking.
> > >
> > > > Questions:
> > > > Is the CPU enough ?
> > > See above.
> > >
> > > > I would like to run the monitoring deamon on the same host, would
> this
> > > be a
> > > > problem ?
> > > >
> > > Just within the normal usage needs, more RAM in that case anyway.
> > >
> > > > Optionally i would like to add an extra SSD for caching
> > > Not really recommended with that server and not particular helpful with
> > > that network.
> > > A single SSD of any caliber will/can eat one of your CPU cores by
> itself
> > > and then ask for seconds.
> > >
> > > > Does write-back caching also optimize the reads ?
> > > Yes, subject to "correct" configuration of course.
> > >
> > > > Do I need two SSD's per node
> > > >
> > > From a performance point of view, not so much.
> > > Your network can't even saturate one 200GB DC S3710.
> > >
> > > From a redundancy point of view you might be better off with more
> nodes.
> > >
> > > Christian
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Kind regards,
> > > > Tom
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Christian Balzer        Network/Systems Engineer
> > > [email protected]           Global OnLine Japan/Rakuten Communications
> > > http://www.gol.com/
> > >
>
>
> --
> Christian Balzer        Network/Systems Engineer
> [email protected]           Global OnLine Japan/Rakuten Communications
> http://www.gol.com/
>
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