Please refer to Jens's message.

Regards,

On Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 8:53 PM, Marcus Müller <mueller.mar...@posteo.de> wrote:
> Ok, thank you. I thought I have to set ceph to a tunables profile. If I’m 
> right, then I just have to export the current crush map, edit it and import 
> it again, like:
>
> ceph osd getcrushmap -o /tmp/crush
> crushtool -i /tmp/crush --set-choose-total-tries 100 -o /tmp/crush.new
> ceph osd setcrushmap -i /tmp/crush.new
>
> Is this right or not?
>
> I started this cluster with these 3 nodes and each 3 osds. They are vms. I 
> knew that this cluster would expand very big, that’s the reason for my choice 
> for ceph. Now I can’t add more HDDs to the vm hypervisor and I want to 
> separate the nodes physically too. I bought a new node with these 4 drives 
> and now another node with only 2 drives. As I hear now from several people 
> this was not a good idea. For this reason, I bought now additional HDDs for 
> the new node, so I have two with the same amount of HDDs and size. In the 
> next 1-2 months I will get the third physical node and then everything should 
> be fine. But at this time I have no other option.
>
> May it help to solve this problem by adding the 2 new HDDs to the new ceph 
> node?
>
>
>
>> Am 11.01.2017 um 12:00 schrieb Brad Hubbard <bhubb...@redhat.com>:
>>
>> Your current problem has nothing to do with clients and neither does
>> choose_total_tries.
>>
>> Try setting just this value to 100 and see if your situation improves.
>>
>> Ultimately you need to take a good look at your cluster configuration
>> and how your crush map is configured to deal with that configuration
>> but start with choose_total_tries as it has the highest probability of
>> helping your situation. Your clients should not be affected.
>>
>> Could you explain the reasoning behind having three hosts with one ods
>> each, one host with two osds and one with four?
>>
>> You likely need to tweak your crushmap to handle this configuration
>> better or, preferably, move to a more uniform configuration.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 5:38 PM, Marcus Müller <mueller.mar...@posteo.de> 
>> wrote:
>>> I have to thank you all. You give free support and this already helps me.
>>> I’m not the one who knows ceph that good, but everyday it’s getting better
>>> and better ;-)
>>>
>>> According to the article Brad posted I have to change the ceph osd crush
>>> tunables. But there are two questions left as I already wrote:
>>>
>>> - According to
>>> http://docs.ceph.com/docs/master/rados/operations/crush-map/#tunables there
>>> are a few profiles. My needed profile would be BOBTAIL (CRUSH_TUNABLES2)
>>> wich would set choose_total_tries to 50. For the beginning better than 19.
>>> There I also see: "You can select a profile on a running cluster with the
>>> command: ceph osd crush tunables {PROFILE}“. My question on this is: Even if
>>> I run hammer, is it good and possible to set it to bobtail?
>>>
>>> - We can also read:
>>>  WHICH CLIENT VERSIONS SUPPORT CRUSH_TUNABLES2
>>>  - v0.55 or later, including bobtail series (v0.56.x)
>>>  - Linux kernel version v3.9 or later (for the file system and RBD kernel
>>> clients)
>>>
>>> And here my question is: If my clients use librados (version hammer), do I
>>> need to have this required kernel version on the clients or the ceph nodes?
>>>
>>> I don’t want to have troubles at the end with my clients. Can someone answer
>>> me this, before I change the settings?
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 11.01.2017 um 06:47 schrieb Shinobu Kinjo <ski...@redhat.com>:
>>>
>>>
>>> Yeah, Sam is correct. I've not looked at crushmap. But I should have
>>> noticed what troublesome is with looking at `ceph osd tree`. That's my
>>> bad, sorry for that.
>>>
>>> Again please refer to:
>>>
>>> http://www.anchor.com.au/blog/2013/02/pulling-apart-cephs-crush-algorithm/
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 1:50 AM, Samuel Just <sj...@redhat.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Shinobu isn't correct, you have 9/9 osds up and running.  up does not
>>> equal acting because crush is having trouble fulfilling the weights in
>>> your crushmap and the acting set is being padded out with an extra osd
>>> which happens to have the data to keep you up to the right number of
>>> replicas.  Please refer back to Brad's post.
>>> -Sam
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 11:08 PM, Marcus Müller <mueller.mar...@posteo.de>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Ok, i understand but how can I debug why they are not running as they
>>> should? For me I thought everything is fine because ceph -s said they are up
>>> and running.
>>>
>>> I would think of a problem with the crush map.
>>>
>>> Am 10.01.2017 um 08:06 schrieb Shinobu Kinjo <ski...@redhat.com>:
>>>
>>> e.g.,
>>> OSD7 / 3 / 0 are in the same acting set. They should be up, if they
>>> are properly running.
>>>
>>> # 9.7
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>> "up": [
>>>     7,
>>>     3
>>> ],
>>> "acting": [
>>>     7,
>>>     3,
>>>     0
>>> ],
>>>
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>> Here is an example:
>>>
>>> "up": [
>>>  1,
>>>  0,
>>>  2
>>> ],
>>> "acting": [
>>>  1,
>>>  0,
>>>  2
>>> ],
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 3:52 PM, Marcus Müller <mueller.mar...@posteo.de>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> That's not perfectly correct.
>>>
>>> OSD.0/1/2 seem to be down.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sorry but where do you see this? I think this indicates that they are up:
>>> osdmap e3114: 9 osds: 9 up, 9 in; 4 remapped pgs?
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 10.01.2017 um 07:50 schrieb Shinobu Kinjo <ski...@redhat.com>:
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 3:44 PM, Marcus Müller <mueller.mar...@posteo.de>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> All osds are currently up:
>>>
>>>  health HEALTH_WARN
>>>         4 pgs stuck unclean
>>>         recovery 4482/58798254 objects degraded (0.008%)
>>>         recovery 420522/58798254 objects misplaced (0.715%)
>>>         noscrub,nodeep-scrub flag(s) set
>>>  monmap e9: 5 mons at
>>> {ceph1=192.168.10.3:6789/0,ceph2=192.168.10.4:6789/0,ceph3=192.168.10.5:6789/0,ceph4=192.168.60.6:6789/0,ceph5=192.168.60.11:6789/0}
>>>         election epoch 478, quorum 0,1,2,3,4
>>> ceph1,ceph2,ceph3,ceph4,ceph5
>>>  osdmap e3114: 9 osds: 9 up, 9 in; 4 remapped pgs
>>>         flags noscrub,nodeep-scrub
>>>   pgmap v9981077: 320 pgs, 3 pools, 4837 GB data, 19140 kobjects
>>>         15070 GB used, 40801 GB / 55872 GB avail
>>>         4482/58798254 objects degraded (0.008%)
>>>         420522/58798254 objects misplaced (0.715%)
>>>              316 active+clean
>>>                4 active+remapped
>>> client io 56601 B/s rd, 45619 B/s wr, 0 op/s
>>>
>>> This did not chance for two days or so.
>>>
>>>
>>> By the way, my ceph osd df now looks like this:
>>>
>>> ID WEIGHT  REWEIGHT SIZE   USE    AVAIL  %USE  VAR
>>> 0 1.28899  1.00000  3724G  1699G  2024G 45.63 1.69
>>> 1 1.57899  1.00000  3724G  1708G  2015G 45.87 1.70
>>> 2 1.68900  1.00000  3724G  1695G  2028G 45.54 1.69
>>> 3 6.78499  1.00000  7450G  1241G  6208G 16.67 0.62
>>> 4 8.39999  1.00000  7450G  1228G  6221G 16.49 0.61
>>> 5 9.51500  1.00000  7450G  1239G  6210G 16.64 0.62
>>> 6 7.66499  1.00000  7450G  1265G  6184G 16.99 0.63
>>> 7 9.75499  1.00000  7450G  2497G  4952G 33.52 1.24
>>> 8 9.32999  1.00000  7450G  2495G  4954G 33.49 1.24
>>>           TOTAL 55872G 15071G 40801G 26.97
>>> MIN/MAX VAR: 0.61/1.70  STDDEV: 13.16
>>>
>>> As you can see, now osd2 also went down to 45% Use and „lost“ data. But I
>>> also think this is no problem and ceph just clears everything up after
>>> backfilling.
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 10.01.2017 um 07:29 schrieb Shinobu Kinjo <ski...@redhat.com>:
>>>
>>> Looking at ``ceph -s`` you originally provided, all OSDs are up.
>>>
>>> osdmap e3114: 9 osds: 9 up, 9 in; 4 remapped pgs
>>>
>>>
>>> But looking at ``pg query``, OSD.0 / 1 are not up. Are they something
>>>
>>>
>>> That's not perfectly correct.
>>>
>>> OSD.0/1/2 seem to be down.
>>>
>>> like related to ?:
>>>
>>> Ceph1, ceph2 and ceph3 are vms on one physical host
>>>
>>>
>>> Are those OSDs running on vm instances?
>>>
>>> # 9.7
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>> "state": "active+remapped",
>>> "snap_trimq": "[]",
>>> "epoch": 3114,
>>> "up": [
>>>   7,
>>>   3
>>> ],
>>> "acting": [
>>>   7,
>>>   3,
>>>   0
>>> ],
>>>
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>> # 7.84
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>> "state": "active+remapped",
>>> "snap_trimq": "[]",
>>> "epoch": 3114,
>>> "up": [
>>>   4,
>>>   8
>>> ],
>>> "acting": [
>>>   4,
>>>   8,
>>>   1
>>> ],
>>>
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>> # 8.1b
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>> "state": "active+remapped",
>>> "snap_trimq": "[]",
>>> "epoch": 3114,
>>> "up": [
>>>   4,
>>>   7
>>> ],
>>> "acting": [
>>>   4,
>>>   7,
>>>   2
>>> ],
>>>
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>> # 7.7a
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>> "state": "active+remapped",
>>> "snap_trimq": "[]",
>>> "epoch": 3114,
>>> "up": [
>>>   7,
>>>   4
>>> ],
>>> "acting": [
>>>   7,
>>>   4,
>>>   2
>>> ],
>>>
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Cheers,
>> Brad
>
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