Based on past LTS release dates would predict Luminous much sooner than
that, possibly even in May...  http://docs.ceph.com/docs/master/releases/

The docs also say "Spring" http://docs.ceph.com/docs/master/release-notes/

-Ben

On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 12:11 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:

> Thanks a lot, Trey.
>
> I'll try that stuff next week, once back from Easter holidays.
> And some "multi site" and "metasearch" is also still on my to-be-tested
> list. Need badly to free up some time for all the interesting "future of
> storage" things.
>
> BTW., we are on Kraken and I'd hope to see more of the new and shiny stuff
> here soon (something like 11.2.X) instead of waiting for Luminous late
> 2017. Not sure how the CEPH release policy is usually?!
>
> Anyhow, thanks and happy Easter everyone!
> Anton
>
>
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 13. April 2017 um 20:15 Uhr
> Von: "Trey Palmer" <[email protected]>
> An: [email protected]
> Cc: "Trey Palmer" <[email protected]>, [email protected]
> Betreff: Re: [ceph-users] Question about RadosGW subusers
>
> Anton,
>
> It turns out that Adam Emerson is trying to get bucket policies and roles
> merged in time for Luminous:
>
> https://github.com/ceph/ceph/pull/14307
>
> Given this, I think we will only be using subusers temporarily as a method
> to track which human or service did what in which bucket.  This seems to us
> much easier than trying to deal with ACL's without any concept of groups,
> roles, or policies, in buckets that can often have millions of objects.
>
> Here is the general idea:
>
>
> 1.  Each bucket has a user ("master user"), but we don't use or issue that
> set of keys at all.
>
>
> radosgw-admin user create --uid=mybucket --display-name="My Bucket"
>
> You can of course have multiple buckets per user but so far for us it has
> been simple to have one user per bucket, with the username the same as the
> bucket name.   If a human needs access to more than one bucket, we will
> create multiple subusers for them.   That's not convenient, but it's
> temporary.
>
> So what we're doing is effectively making the user into the group, with
> the subusers being the users, and each user only capable of being in one
> group.   Very suboptimal, but better than the total chaos that would result
> from giving everyone the same set of keys for a given bucket.
>
>
> 2.  For each human user or service/machine user of that bucket, we create
> subusers.    You can do this via:
>
> ## full-control ops user
> radosgw-admin subuser create --uid=mybucket --subuser=mybucket:alice
> --access=full --gen-access-key --gen-secret --key-type=s3
>
> ## write-only server user
> radosgw-admin subuser create --uid=mybucket --subuser=mybucket:daemon
> --access=write --gen-access-key --gen-secret-key --key-type=s3
>
> If you then do a "radosgw-admin metadata get user:mybucket", the JSON
> output contains the subusers and their keys.
>
>
> 3.  Raise the RGW log level in ceph.conf to make an "access key id" line
> available for each request, which you can then map to a subuser if/when you
> need to track who did what after the fact.  In ceph.conf:
>
> debug_rgw = 10/10
>
> This will cause the logs to be VERY verbose, an order of magnitude and
> some change more verbose than default.   We plan to discard most of the
> logs while feeding them into ElasticSearch.
>
> We might not need this much log verbosity once we have policies and are
> using unique users rather than subusers.
>
> Nevertheless, I hope we can eventually reduce the log level of the "access
> key id" line, as we have a pretty mainstream use case and I'm certain that
> tracking S3 request users will be required for many organizations for
> accounting and forensic purposes just as it is for us.
>
>     -- Trey
>
> On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 1:29 PM, <[email protected][mailto:
> [email protected]]> wrote:Hey Trey.
>
> Sounds great, we were discussing the same kind of requirements and
> couldn't agree on/find something "useful"... so THANK YOU for sharing!!!
>
> It would be great if you could provide some more details or an example how
> you configure the "bucket user" and sub-users and all that stuff.
> Even more interesting for me, how do the "different ppl or services"
> access that buckets/objects afterwards?! I mean via which tools (s3cmd,
> boto, cyberduck, mix of some, ...) and are there any ACLs set/in use as
> well?!
>
> (sorry if this all sounds somehow dumb but I'm a just a novice ;) )
>
> best
>  Anton
>
>
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 11. April 2017 um 00:17 Uhr
> Von: "Trey Palmer" <[email protected][mailto:[email protected]]>
> An: [email protected][mailto:[email protected]]
> Betreff: [ceph-users] Question about RadosGW subusers
>
> Probably a question for @yehuda :
>
>
> We have fairly strict user accountability requirements.  The best way we
> have found to meet them with S3 object storage on Ceph is by using RadosGW
> subusers.
>
> If we set up one user per bucket, then set up subusers to provide separate
> individual S3 keys and access rights for different people or services using
> that bucket, then we can track who did what via access key in the RadosGW
> logs (at debug_rgw = 10/10).
>
> Of course, this is not a documented use case for subusers.  I'm wondering
> if Yehuda or anyone else could estimate our risk of future incompatibility
> if we implement user/key management around subusers in this manner?
>
> Thanks,
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