Hello,

We have checked all the drives, and there is no problem with them. If there 
would be a failing drive, then I think that the slow requests should appear 
also in the normal traffic as the ceph cluster is using all the OSDs as 
primaries for some PGs. But these slow requests are appearing only during the 
backfill. I will try to dig deeper into the IO operations at the next test.

Kind regards,
Laszlo



On 01.09.2017 16:08, David Turner wrote:
That is normal to have backfilling because the crush map did change. The host 
and the chassis have crush numbers and their own weight which is the sum of the 
osds under them.  By moving the host into the chassis you changed the weight of 
the chassis and that affects the PG placement even though you didn't change the 
failure domain.

Osd_max_backfills = 1 shouldn't impact customer traffic and cause blocked 
requests. Most people find that they can use 3-5 before the disks are active 
enough to come close to impacting customer traffic.  That would lead me to 
think you have a dying drive that you're reading from/writing to in sectors 
that are bad or at least slower.


On Fri, Sep 1, 2017, 6:13 AM Laszlo Budai <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Hi David,

    Well, most probably the larger part of our PGs will have to be reorganized, as we are 
moving from 9 hosts to 3 chassis. But I was hoping to be able to throttle the backfilling 
to an extent where it has minimal impact on our user traffic. Unfortunately I wasn't able 
to do it. I saw that the newer versions of ceph have the "osd recovery sleep" 
parameter. I think this would help, but unfortunately it's not present in hammer ... :(

    Also I have an other question: Is it normal to have backfill when we add a 
host to a chassis even if we don't change the CRUSH rule? Let me explain: We 
have the hosts directly assigned to the root bucket. Then we add chassis to the 
root, and then we move a host from the root to the chassis. In all this time 
the rule set remains unchanged, with the host being the failure domain.

    Kind regards,
    Laszlo


    On 31.08.2017 17:56, David Turner wrote:
     > How long are you seeing these blocked requests for?  Initially or 
perpetually?  Changing the failure domain causes all PGs to peer at the same time. 
 This would be the cause if it happens really quickly.  There is no way to avoid 
all of them peering while making a change like this.  After that, It could easily 
be caused because a fair majority of your data is probably set to move around.  I 
would check what might be causing the blocked requests during this time.  See if 
there is an OSD that might be dying (large backfills have the tendancy to find a 
couple failing drives) which could easily cause things to block.  Also checking if 
your disks or journals are maxed out with iostat could shine some light on any 
mitigating factor.
     >
     > On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 9:01 AM Laszlo Budai <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:
     >
     >     Dear all!
     >
     >     In our Hammer cluster we are planning to switch our failure domain 
from host to chassis. We have performed some simulations, and regardless of the 
settings we have used some slow requests have appeared all the time.
     >
     >     we had the the following settings:
     >
     >        "osd_max_backfills": "1",
     >           "osd_backfill_full_ratio": "0.85",
     >           "osd_backfill_retry_interval": "10",
     >           "osd_backfill_scan_min": "1",
     >           "osd_backfill_scan_max": "4",
     >           "osd_kill_backfill_at": "0",
     >           "osd_debug_skip_full_check_in_backfill_reservation": "false",
     >           "osd_debug_reject_backfill_probability": "0",
     >
     >          "osd_min_recovery_priority": "0",
     >           "osd_allow_recovery_below_min_size": "true",
     >           "osd_recovery_threads": "1",
     >           "osd_recovery_thread_timeout": "60",
     >           "osd_recovery_thread_suicide_timeout": "300",
     >           "osd_recovery_delay_start": "0",
     >           "osd_recovery_max_active": "1",
     >           "osd_recovery_max_single_start": "1",
     >           "osd_recovery_max_chunk": "8388608",
     >           "osd_recovery_forget_lost_objects": "false",
     >           "osd_recovery_op_priority": "1",
     >           "osd_recovery_op_warn_multiple": "16",
     >
     >
     >     we have also tested it with the CFQ IO scheduler on the OSDs and the 
following params:
     >           "osd_disk_thread_ioprio_priority": "7"
     >           "osd_disk_thread_ioprio_class": "idle"
     >
     >     and the nodeep-scrub set.
     >
     >     Is there anything else to try? Is there a good way to switch from 
one kind of failure domain to an other without slow requests?
     >
     >     Thank you in advance for any suggestions.
     >
     >     Kind regards,
     >     Laszlo
     >
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