> On Feb 19, 2019, at 3:30 PM, Vitaliy Filippov <vita...@yourcmc.ru> wrote:
> 
> In our russian-speaking Ceph chat we swear "ceph inside kuber" people all the 
> time because they often do not understand in what state their cluster is at 
> all

Agreed 100%. This is a really good way to lock yourself out of your data (and 
maybe lose it), especially if you’re new to Kubernetes and using Rook to manage 
Ceph. 

Some months ago, I was on VMs running on Citrix. Everything is stable on 
Kubernetes and Ceph now, but it’s been a lot of work. I’d suggest starting with 
Kubernetes first, especially if you are going to do this on bare metal. I can 
give you some ideas about how to lay things out if you are running with limited 
hardware.

Brian
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