>>>>> "Dave" == Dave Taht <[email protected]> writes:
    Dave> I finally figured out something today. I've been trying to build a
    Dave> network that "just worked" in places where the internet doesn't exist
    Dave> (yet) - which is roughly 2/3s of the users on the planet. To be able
    Dave> to connect two arbitrary machines together with zero configuration. To
    Dave> get something that would let Jose's machine shop in one part
    Dave> of town 
    Dave> connect to Jorge's printer down the street, because that's the only
    Dave> printer for 100 kilometers.

I have the goal.

I am not a political fan of ULAs, I would prefer a space of
Non-Connected Networks addressing, including perhaps Tony Hain's GeoIP.
(http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-hain-ipv6-geo-addr/ ), but I can
live with ULA.

Given ULA, the problem of connecting Jose and Jorge, is not a job for
DHCP or PD, but rather of a routing problem.  You can apply babel,
OLSLR, OSPC AHCP, etc. to the problem.

I see no reason to ever want NPT66.

    Dave> The other day I sat, in disbelief, in a a room with several students,
    Dave> when they all had git trees of the project, and the internet
    Dave> was down .
    Dave> They started passing around a usb stick, and didn't know about the
    Dave> whatever.local trick. I showed them that they could, indeed,
    Dave> just pass 
    Dave> the objects around locally, with a

Yup, it's true.
People under the age of 30 have never been on the Internet.  They grew
up with NAT, and assume that *their* computer is just a client.

    Dave> I love it when I hear "Host vendors should fix their boxes". I would
    Dave> prefer that people making the architectural decision to assign
    Dave> work to 
    Dave> someone else, either find a way to pay for it, or do the work
    Dave> on those 
    Dave> hosts to enable the vision.

It's gonna happen this time.
Seriously.

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