Hi Fred, hi List

On Jul 26, 2013, at 08:21 , Fred Stratton <fredstrat...@imap.cc> wrote:

> I can certainly confirm this, having spent several fruitless hours with the 
> build.
> 
> 6in4 remains broken for henet.
> 
> dnsmasq appears not to recognise additional domain name servers. The ISP I 
> use has a very slow domain name service, to which the system now defaults. 
> The consequence of this is that opkg times out, and no packages can be 
> installed.
> 
> It is still not possible to watch a video stream and download files 
> simultaneously on an ADSL line.


I can not comment on most of your issues, but I might have some information 
about the ADSL issue. I only got around to test 3.10.1-1 but I suspect that 
there are no changes in the relevant packages between these versions. I had a 
few issues with getting my ADSL line (atm carried adsl2+) to work reasonably; 
maybe some of these issues are at play in your setup as well. 

Anyway, it turned out to have probably two main reasons:

1) It looks that the AQM luci interface does not really propagate the requested 
bandwidth down to simple_qos.sh (the version Toke's AQM package supplies), to 
get this working I had to edit the bandwidth defaults in 
/usr/lib/aqm/functions.sh to make it work at all. (I then switched back to the 
stand alone simple_qos.sh; no time yet to debug why the luci-fied version did 
not honor the up- and download speeds from the gui)
That helped a lot. Enabling simple_qos.sh's PPPOE option did not improve things 
to where I expected them.


2) It seems HTB's issues with regards to the ATM carrier (and potentially per 
packet overhead do not seem fully solved yet. I side stepped this issue by 
resorting to handle these issues with the more generic td-stab mechanism:
I added the following to simple_qos.sh (my line has 40 bytes of encapsulation 
overhead, but linux already accounts for the 14bytes ethernet header, so the 
additional overhead is 26, you probably know your overhead already*):
        EGRESS_STAB_STRING="stab mtu 2048 tsize 128 overhead 26 linklayer atm"
        INGRESS_STAB_STRING="stab mtu 2048 tsize 128 overhead 26 linklayer atm"

then I changed egress() from:
        $TC qdisc add dev $IFACE root handle 1: htb default 12
to:
        $TC qdisc add dev $IFACE root handle 1: ${EGRESS_STAB_STRING} htb 
default 12

and ingress() from:
        $TC qdisc add dev $DEV root handle 1: htb default 12
to:
        $TC qdisc add dev $DEV root handle 1:  ${INGRESS_STAB_STRING} htb 
default 12

that again helped a lot.



3) I also turned of polipo on my wndr3700 v2 assuming that the device has to 
little memory and flash storage to allow for polipo to be actually useful. I 
intend to supply polipo with a larger backing store and enable it again in due 
time.



These changes turned maximum ping RTTs under load from initially up to almost 6 
seconds (avg ~ 250ms) down to 226ms (avg 26ms). I just measured the ping times 
to a near host (RTT ~24ms ) while saturating the upload with a single large 
transfer and stressing the download by opening around 100 media heavy browser 
tabs at once

In case you test these changes I would love to hear whether this improves your 
situation or not.



*) Note: thee is no universal ADSL overhead, it depends on the encapsulation 
method used by your ISP, so one either needs to look up the required 
information (see: http://ace-host.stuart.id.au/russell/files/tc/tc-atm/ and 
http://www.dsm.fordham.edu/cgi-bin/man-cgi.pl?topic=tc-stab&ampsect=8 and 
http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2684.html) or figure it out empirically.



Best Regards
        Sebastian





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> On 26 Jul 2013, at 06:20, Dave Taht <dave.t...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> sysupgrade -n doesn't work with this release. Stay away. I have a new
>> build of 3.10.3-1 and am trying to fix it...
>> 
>> I did find the problem on the ubnt builds - I'd switched to the new
>> babeld from quagga, but failed to install it by default.
>> 
>> in openwrt trunk, elliptic curve has been enabled in openssl. It's
>> long past time we enable https for configuration by default, and might
>> as well figure out how to turn perfect forward secrecy on as well in
>> the post-snowden era.
>> 
>> owamp seemingly works well, with a couple glitches here and there. I
>> got to where the lab was synced to about 1ms resolution... and 5 more
>> gpses arrived today....
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