Hi Rich,

On Jan 11, 2014, at 19:47 , Rich Brown <richb.hano...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Sebastian,
> 
>>      It is quite clear to me, that I failed to explain the matters 
>> surrounding ATM links properly. But if I can not explain this to a small 
>> group of technical experts there is no chance for me to explain this to lay 
>> persons. I will try my best to contribute to the "more than you ever wanted 
>> to know about link layer adaptation" page.
> 
> Oh dear, please don’t think that. 

        Oh, I am sure there are people with more insight, who could explain the 
complications away, just I am not one of those :) I think you strike a good 
balance in the description of being informative and improving the typical 
user's experience with frightening people away with too much detail. I am happy 
to help with the scary part on the details page...

> 
> You really have done a great job describing the problems of ATM links. I have 
> snagged all the relevant points from the Link Layer discussion, and plan to 
> include them in the “more than you want to know…” page. Your points A-G 
> describing link framing in 
> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/pipermail/cerowrt-devel/2014-January/001963.html
>  will be a major part of the discussion.

        Note, I do not do networking for a living, so there will be 
inaccuracies in there (I tried my best though)

> 
> But the fact that we can see many ways to improve the software shouldn’t stop 
> us from celebrating our immense success to date. One way to do this would be 
> by shipping a stable version to the world to try. And to do that, we need to 
> provide good enough instructions that’ll work for new people, and all the 
> details for those who want to dig further.

        Oh, yes, and I think your wiki page gets this balance right.

> 
> On the other hand, I won’t say No to any help you want to provide. :-) I know 
> you’re busy, so I’m happy to take a shot at it later this week. Thanks for 
> all you’ve contributed to the conversation.
> 

Best
        Sebastian

> Rich

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