On Fri, Dec 23, 2016 at 11:44 AM,  <[email protected]> wrote:
> My understanding is that it is already settled case law that contributed code 
> to a GPL licensed projects implicitly grants a perpetual, royalty free 
> license to use any applicable patent the author uses in the code.

According to this it is not settled case law in the UK. Apache, on the
other hand...

http://en.swpat.org/wiki/Patent_clauses_in_software_licences#Apache_License_2.0


> Of course there is no case law regarding patent s in other licenses, in 
> particular MIT and BSD, which have no strong copyleft provisions.

Yes, I think *mandating* that ietf contributions be under a weak,
unsettled license is fraught with problems.

>
> This issue of submarine patent traps is important in communications protocol 
> invention. Protocol patents are far worse than software patents... IMO, 
> communications protocols should never be property. IESG is struggling to 
> create a middle ground, where there should be no middle, IMO.

Tend to agree.

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Marc Petit-Huguenin" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Fri, Dec 23, 2016 at 2:23 pm
> To: "Dave Taht" <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" 
> <[email protected]>
> Cc: "Dave Taht" <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" 
> <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Fwd: License File for Open Source Repositories
>
> On 12/23/2016 08:05 AM, Dave Taht wrote:
>> I have no idea what they are trying to do.
>
> This is to prevent people to propose text to be included in a specification 
> without disclosing that this may be relevant to a patent or patent 
> application they own or know about.  As soon you make a contribution, you are 
> supposed to disclose such IPR in the IETF database.  This text makes it 
> explicit that anything done in such repository is covered by the same 
> requirements.
>
> An alternative would have been a variant of the Signed-off-by header, but as 
> the repository does not extend to the RFC-editor or the IETF Trust, that's, 
> the best that can be done for now.
>
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: IESG Secretary
>> Date: Fri, Dec 23, 2016 at 7:36 AM
>> Subject: License File for Open Source Repositories
>> To: IETF Announcement List
>> Cc: [email protected], [email protected]
>>
>>
>> The IESG has observed that many working groups work with open source
>> repositories even for their work on specifications. That's great, and
>> we're happy to see this development, as it fits well the working style
>> of at least some of our working groups. This style is also likely to be
>> more popular in the future.
>>
>> As always, we'd like to understand areas where we can either be helpful
>> in bringing in some new things such as tooling, or where we need to
>> integrate better between the repository world and the IETF process. As
>> an example of the latter, we're wondering whether it would be helpful to
>> have a standard boilerplate for these repositories with respect to the
>> usual copyright and other matters. The intent is for such text to be
>> placed in a suitable file (e.g., "CONTRIBUTING"), probably along with
>> some additional information that is already present in these files in
>> many repositories. The idea is that people should treat, e.g., text
>> contributions to a draft-foo.xml in a repository much in the same way as
>> they treat text contributions on the list, at least when it comes to
>> copyright, IPR, and other similar issues.
>>
>> We have worked together with the IETF legal team and few key experts
>> from the IETF who are actively using these repositories, and suggest the
>> following text.
>>
>> We're looking to make a decision on this matter on our January 19th,
>> 2017 IESG Telechat, and would appreciate feedback before then. This
>> message will be resent after the holiday period is over to make sure it
>> is noticed. Please send comments to the IESG ([email protected]) by 2017-01-17.
>>
>> The IESG
>>
>> ——
>>
>> This repository relates to activities in the Internet Engineering Task
>> Force(IETF). All material in this repository is considered Contributions
>> to the IETF Standards Process, as defined in the intellectual property
>> policies of IETF currently designated as BCP 78
>> (https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/bcp78), BCP 79
>> (https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/bcp79) and the IETF Trust Legal
>> Provisions (TLP) Relating to IETF Documents
>> (http://trustee.ietf.org/trust-legal-provisions.html).
>>
>> Any edit, commit, pull-request, comment or other change made to this
>> repository constitutes Contributions to the IETF Standards Process. You
>> agree to comply with all applicable IETF policies and procedures,
>> including, BCP 78, 79, the TLP, and the TLP rules regarding code
>> components (e.g. being subject to a Simplified BSD License) in
>> Contributions.
>>
>>
>>
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