If POF (Plastic Optical Fibre) like install methods can be scaled up to Polymer/Glass runs (Sharpie knife slicing/jam into receptor). I don't see this being the problem. Depending on the Sheathing fibre is just as good as UTP cabling. Magnitudes cheaper too.
When I learnt of POF I was excited, until I learned how it's severely limited in the bandwidth/frequency transmission department. I guess if we could get some sort of Clamp-on USB-C style adaptor for fibre would probably be the ideal. I don't really see why this couldn't work with MPO style fibre. On 15 February 2018 at 02:21, Mikael Abrahamsson <swm...@swm.pp.se> wrote: > On Thu, 15 Feb 2018, Joel Wirāmu Pauling wrote: > >> Again it's not the speed, it's the throughput. TB3 delivers near to what >> my local x86 can do in terms of throughput. Also network should never be >> slower than disc. Since NVME has been around this is no-longer true. It's an >> unnatural order of things. > > > Having done networking since mid 80-ties, having the network be slower than > disk has been the reality, forever, for me. The only time this might not > have been true would be in the beginning of 1GBASE time, where single HDDs > were slower than network. With in 10BASE-2 days, HDDs were doing a magnitude > higher transfer speeds compared to network. Running NFS was slow compared to > local drive. > >> Cabling is the issue in my mind right now. Every laptop with tb3 ports >> has 10G+ capability, if passive optical long run was cheap and easily >> available for tb3 then half the problem would already be solved. > > > Cabling fiber is unfortunately always quite a lot harder and more > complicated than copper, that's why RJ45 won. Having factory-made fiber > cable with USB-C connectors at each end might work, if the active > electronics can be made small enough. Think pulling these through holes in > walls, through cable management etc. Unfortunately I doubt these will reach > enough volume in near time to really become widely used due to their initial > high cost. > >> Maybe 10G over cat6a will be ok as the evolution. But you have to go to >> cat8 to get anything beyond 10G... so the cabling situation and incentive to >> upgrade to future-proof isn't there. > > > If we need higher than 10G speeds, then yes, fiber is the next natural > evolution. I don't know how we're going to make single-mode fiber something > that the average user can handle without problems. There are advantages > though. > > I am getting FTTH now. The cable they're putting is looks like this: > > https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10154951833141595&set=p.10154951833141595&type=3&theater > > It has 3 strands and it's single mode. > > So if we can light up these at a good cost/power/size compromise, the cables > can be made extremely thin. Still wondering how the connectors etc are going > to look like to make this end user friendly. > > > -- > Mikael Abrahamsson email: swm...@swm.pp.se _______________________________________________ Cerowrt-devel mailing list Cerowrtemail@example.com https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cerowrt-devel