Dan,

I disagree. The president is also the leader of the armed forces. How can 
Clinton tell anyone to go sacrifice their lives for America when he refused 
himself? I believe in leadership by example, In that regard Clinton is a 
very poor leader.

-George


>From: Dan Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: RE: Waaay OT: US elections (soap boxish)
>Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 14:59:27 -0800
>
>Extremely well said.
>
>To take it one step further - let's all realize we are human beings and 
>that
>noone has ever chosen their own birthplace.  Everyone keeps that in mind 
>and
>the need for a military quickly diminishes.  Naive, yes.  Not worth 
>thinking
>about.  Never.
>
>Dan
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: John Allred [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 10:31 AM
>To: CF-Community
>Subject: Re: Waaay OT: US elections (soap boxish)
>
>
>George,
>
>I suppose, by this logic, that those of us from the Vietnam era who
>failed to enlist are forever enjoined from doing anything in public
>life. Sounds pretty unamerican to me.
>
>As for myself, had I been drafted (difficult with a lottery number of
>360), I would have "served." Given that there was little consensus and a
>lot of divisiveness over the issue, I never felt a duty to volunteer.
>
>In present times, I thoroughly resent those in public life who are
>promoting polarization among the armed services (e.g., the current flap
>over overseas absentee ballots in Florida), like those of five or six
>years ago did with religion. I'm naive, I suppose, in thinking that we
>should all consider ourselves Americans first, and begin acting like it.
>
>Our Constitution provides for civilian control over our military. While
>it's coincidental that many Presidents did serve, I certainly don't see
>it as a prerequisite. Those who try to turn the military against their
>Commander-In-Chief should be tried and shot as traitors. Of course,
>since we're not at war, maybe all we can do is lock them up. That's
>still better than they deserve.
>
>By the way, our President represented ALL Americans on his recent trip
>to Vietnam, not just the military.
>
>JMHO,
>--John
>
>George Kaytor wrote:
> >
> > John,
> >
> > I'll agree with you on most points. But take a gander at this 
>difference.
> > George Bush (sr) volunteered for service when this nation was in a war,
>and
> > volunteered for combat duty. He could have easily gotten out of service,
>as
> > his daddy was a powerful senator. He volunteered because he felt it his
>duty
> > to SERVE his country. Compare those actions to those of willy clinton 
>and
> > maybe my point will be clearer to you. I just bring up this example,
>because
> > willy finally made it to vietnam.
> >
> > -GK
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