actually the next version of cf will have the ability to flush output to the
screen before the whole page is rendered, like asp.
-george
>From: "Michael Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: CF wishes
>Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 11:21:34 -0500
>
>Daniel
>Those are some great wishes for CF!! Some sound like they could be fixed in
>the next version... so I forwarded it
>to the Allaire wishlist for CF.
>- Michael Smith, TeraTech, Inc http://www.teratech.com/
>
>Daniel Dewey wrote:
>
> > <CF_RANT_N_RAVE>
> > Gary --
> > This isn't directed at you, just at the all CF evangelists out there.
>My
> > philosophy is 'use the best tool out there', and lately I've found that
>it
> > hasn't been CF.
> >
> > I'm sure to be flamed for this, but Cold Fusion is not the panacea that
> > everyone claims it to be! Don't get me wrong, it's an incredible RAD
> > tool... but sometimes a solution can't (and shouldn't) be written in CF.
> > Someone once called CF 'the glue that binds websites together' or
>something
> > like that. My websites are written in CF/ASP/PHP, with a dash of COM.
>I
> > should probably swap CF for JSP... but I'd hate to learn yet ANOTHER
> > scripting language. Please bear in mind that I'm the site programmer
>(code
> > and databases)... not the graphics designer.
> >
> > My BIFFs with CF
> > * can't set cookies and use CFLOCATION at the same time
> > * can't remove/delete cookies that are mixed case (sometimes set by
>other
> > programs on your website)
> > * can't talk to COM objects that expect the ASP object model
> > * can't provide unbuffered output
> > * can't easily extend the CFFORM functionality
> >
> > We use lyris for our e-mail based mailing lists (very popular), and as
> > 'easy' as it is to use, we still have people who find its interface
> > confusing... so I wrote an even SIMPLER interface. Guess what... I had
>to
> > be done in ASP, because the COM object that talks with LYRIS expects the
>ASP
> > COM model (yes, I could have written a wrapper.. but why?)
> >
> > We protect our site with SiteServer M&P, because most of the content is
>not
> > CF based (HTML, PDF) to reduce server load (100,000 page views a day
>without
> > clustering). I had to write a custom COM component to talk with the M&P
> > LDAP Server, because CF's LDAP doesn't transmit GUIDs properly. That
> > coupled with the fact that CF can't manage mixed case cookies... *sigh*
> >
> > I had written a banner tool, which referenced banners as <img
> > src=/banner.cfm?id=333>. The CFCONTENT tag didn't react well under high
> > load conditions, often resulting in broken links. Amazing, but PHP
>doesn't
> > suffer from that problem... and can (re)write graphics files on the fly!
> >
> > The guys at UIE tips have proven that quick response from a website is
> > important... sometimes more important that how easy the site is to
>navigate.
> > An ASP/PHP page can take 30 seconds load, but appear to load much more
> > quickly, because the page output is sent while the page is being
>generated.
> > A CF page is only transmitted AFTER the CF script has finished
>executing.
> > Take a look at all the major search engines... they use unbuffered
>output...
> > and for good reason!
> >
> > </CF_RANT_N_RAVE>
> > Ok, that was my $0.02.. thanks for listening!
> >
> > ---
> > Daniel Dewey |"According to the rule of averages, if you
> > Systems Developer | stand with one foot in a bucket of ice,
> > MCP (NT srvr/wkstn/eprise) | and the other in a bed of hot coals, you
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] | should be feeling fine" -- Unknown
> > http://www.pobox.com/~dewey | 610-868-1421, x115
> > The National Association of Colleges and Employers
> >
> > These opinions are mine, and may not be the same as my employer
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Guy J. McDowell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 9:53 AM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: HR and IT
> >
> > Alright, I'm getting a little frustrated with Human Resources type in
> > the IT field. Is there any one way to please the majority of these
> > folks?
> >
> > I see some things that to me are strange.
> >
> > "Wanted ColdFusion/ASP developer"
> > Why? Why would you need a person to do both? If you are using
> > ColdFusion what do you need ASP for? (This is a rhetorical question. I
> > have heard all the responses and not one was really valid.)
> >
> > "Junior CF Developer - Must have B.Sc. 3 years CF experience yadda
> > yadda"
> > What's junior about this? This is like saying "Triple A baseball
> > pitcher needed, must throw like Randy Johnson and have had 3 years in
> > the majors."
> >
> > HR - "So what's your minimum required salary?"
> > Me - "Well about $X."
> > HR - "That's too low, I don't think you're experienced enough for the
> > position."
> > What the heck? Just because I don't over inflate my worth means I
> > don't know how to do the job? What's up with that?
> > Next time I'm asking for a hundred grand just to see my resume...then
> > they will think I am the master right away.
> >
> > Just rambling and griping in good fun...
> >
> > Guy
> > www.guymcdowell.com
> >
>
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