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J.
John Wilker
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-----Original Message-----
From: George Kaytor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 11:32 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: end of gun thread
John,
I'll agree with you there. The great thing about this list and this country
is that we have the right to disagree with each other. Just because I
disagree with you doesn't mean that I don't respect your point of view :)
-george
>From: "John Wilker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: RE: Will gun control work?
>Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 10:41:28 -0700
>
>As much fun as it is to argue the points back and forth, I agree with the
>list, this thread has gone on long enough. Both sides, I think will have to
>agree to disagree, both have many valid points I think, and obviously are
>very impassioned about this topic, but neither side really stands a chance
>of convincing the other of their wrong-ness :-)
>
>J.
>
>John Wilker
>Web Applications Consultant
>Macromedia Certified ColdFusion Developer
>
>www.red-omega.com <http://www.red-omega.com>
>
>"Losing - If at first you don't succeed, failure may be your style."
>~despair.com
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: George Kaytor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 9:43 AM
>To: CF-Community
>Subject: RE: Will gun control work?
>
>
>Well, what it would mean is that there IS NOT a direct correlation between
>the availablity of firearms and violence. It was suggested before that the
>availability of firearms directly correlated into a higher violence ratio.
>Looking at the Soviet Union and at Switzerland, we see that this is just
>not
>the case.
>
>-george
>
>
> >From: "John Wilker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: RE: Will gun control work?
> >Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 09:10:42 -0700
> >
> >I'm sure that the violence in Russia had nothing to do with the fact that
> >people were probably killing for bread, Doesn't sound like a highly
> >scientific analysis.
> >
> >J.
> >
> >John Wilker
> >Web Applications Consultant
> >Macromedia Certified ColdFusion Developer
> >
> >www.red-omega.com <http://www.red-omega.com>
> >
> >"Losing - If at first you don't succeed, failure may be your style."
> >~despair.com
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: George Kaytor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 7:58 AM
> >To: CF-Community
> >Subject: RE: Will gun control work?
> >
> >
> >Not to beat a dead horse, but my local paper actually had an interesting
> >article entitle debunking the gun control myth. It brought some very
> >interesting points that refute the claims of gun control advocates.
> >
> >Claim #1) Gun Control reduces violent crime / behaviour.
> >
> >Refutes: Switzerland has almost universal gun ownership, teenagers are
> >highly encouraged to practice target shooting, and Switzerland has one of
> >the lowest violent crime rates in the world. On the other hand, In the
> >eighties it was nearly impossible for a soviet citizen to get any type of
> >firearm, yet the Soviet Union had one of the highest violent crime rates
> >(higher then even the US).
> >
> >There were a ton more, but I probably ticked enough people off by just
> >listing one :)
> >
> >-george
> >
> >
> > >From: "Russel Madere" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Subject: RE: Will gun control work?
> > >Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 09:03:52 -0500
> > >
> > >But the intent was there. Until we learn how to control the intent and
> >the
> > >rage, nothing will stop us from killing each other. We sure didn't
>need
> > >guns to do that 2000 years ago.
> > >
> > >As a case in point, there are places in Panama that I could go and get
> >any
> > >military weapon I wanted, not that I would. These could then be
>smuggled
> > >into the country with cocaine, we are diung such a winderful job of
> > >stopping
> > >it, and I just bypassed any gun control law.
> > >
> > >Any crime commited with these weapons would not be solved with the help
> >of
> > >any registration program or stopped by any laws preventing the sale of
> >any
> > >firearm.
> > >
> > >If you think that is a far fetched idea, ask yourself how criminals are
> > >getting military grade weapons manufactured after the import of them
>was
> > >banned.
> > >
> > >============================================================
> > > Russel Madere, Jr. Senior Web Developer
> > > ICQ: 5446158 http://www.TurboSquid.com
> > >
> > >Some days you eat the bear; some days the bear eats you.
> > >============================================================
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Daniel Lancelot [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Friday, May 11, 2001 10:15
> > > > To: CF-Community
> > > > Subject: RE: Will gun control work?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > difference - no-one was killed - if he had had a gun???
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Russel Madere [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: 07 May 2001 21:49
> > > > To: CF-Community
> > > > Subject: Will gun control work?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I don't think so.
> > > >
> > > > Read this article....
> > > >
> > > > http://dailynews.netscape.com/mynsnews/story.tmpl?table=n&cat=5118
> > > > 0&id=20010
> > > > 5071400000118421
> > > > ============================================================
> > > > Russel Madere, Jr. Senior Web Developer
> > > > ICQ: 5446158 http://www.TurboSquid.com
> > > >
> > > > Some days you eat the bear; some days the bear eats you.
> > > > ============================================================
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
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