In my opinion an expert is someone modest enough to says he's not one. I
consider all of us "experts" and very strongly challenge anyone I meet who
walks up and claims expert.. I met a guy who applied at my last company who
had (in his own words) "Mastered CF" despite not even having any experience
on 4.5 (only 4.01) and not having a single CF site in his portfolio... I
could hardly contain the laughter long enough for him to leave....
Anyone who shares rather than hordes knowledge, helps rather than hinders,
and believes in contributing to the community is in my opinion an expert...
I agree that "expert" is completely relative. I was told I wasn't senior
enough because I hadn't been developing for 10 years.. 7 wasn't enough...
It's all relative to the person making the decisions.. I've met Senior
Developers who knew nothing and had been writing Cf for less than a year,
I've also known Non Senior Developers who've been in IT writing code for
more than 15 and weren't what I would consider a Senior level person...
All subjective.
J.
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-----Original Message-----
From: Warrick, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2001 3:13 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: How do you define an expert?
I think it's pretty safe to say that if you're participating in discussions
in these lists, you're an expert or you are on your way to becoming an
expert. But "Expert" is a relative term to the situation at hand. While
you might be well versed (book smart) in ColdFusion, SQL, VB, C++, Java,
etc., you might not know a thing about the industry you're coding for. And
in that sense, you're not an expert - just a coder. An expert understands
not only HOW to code applications properly, but WHY to code them as well.
It's kind of like putting a college graduate who never worked a day in their
life in the industry they're applying for up against a person who never
attended college, but spent 10 years working in the industry. Who would YOU
hire?
---mark
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-----Original Message-----
From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2001 3:41 PM
To: CF-Community
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: How do you define an expert?
Is it too far off topic to have a discussion on this list (The Jobs list,
of course, I know nothing is off-topic for the community list)?
The question I have, based on a recent CF-Jobs thread, is how would you
define an expert?
[snipfromcfjoblist]
>I don't call myself an expert but I have tons of experiences and
>still learn more each and every day; but most of all I love what I do.
[endsnipfromcfjoblist]
The difference between a professional and an amateur is that the
professional gets paid, and the amateur doesn't. However, that does not
take the quality of work into consideration. I've known professionals who
I've thought were clueless and amateurs who had huge wealths of knowledge.
So, I ask again, How do you define an expert?
I would say that an expert is someone who will do what it takes to get
the job done (sometimes asking for help is what it takes). I'd say that
anyone who is going out of their way to learn new things every day would
qualify as an expert. They may not know everything off the top of their
head, but they'll be able to find the answer.
(I think that reading the CF lists constitutes as self-education,
although it is definitely not the only way to educate yourself)
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