oh oh pick me pick me.  I'll do it.
  -----Original Message-----
  From: Lyons, Larry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 9:39 AM
  To: CF-Community
  Subject: RE: Some people...

  I like to think that we, either in the generic or us as a specific group,
  have higher standards than that. The sort of thinking that leads to
  situations like the Abu Gharav prison, I think is the same as what you're
  advocating.

  I know we are better than that. There may be some who should be eliminated
  for the better good, but I hope that I don't have to make that decision.

  larry

  > -----Original Message-----
  > From: John Stanley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  > Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 9:13 AM
  > To: CF-Community
  > Subject: RE: Some people...
  >
  >
  > >>Doesn't that drag us down to the same level?
  >
  > Probably, no not probably, it most certainly does, but when I
  > see these stories, I dont care what level the vengence comes from.
  >
  > >>If you must, just kill the guy quickly and cleanly.
  >
  > Too good for him. Maybe being dragged to death by a car going
  > one mile an hour........!!!! I wonder how long that would take?
  >
  >
  > -----Original Message-----
  > From: Lyons, Larry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  > Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 9:10 AM
  > To: CF-Community
  > Subject: RE: Some people...
  >
  >
  > Doesn't that drag us down to the same level? If you must,
  > just kill the guy quickly and cleanly.
  >
  > larry
  >
  > > -----Original Message-----
  > > From: John Stanley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  > > Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 9:06 AM
  > > To: CF-Community
  > > Subject: RE: Some people...
  > >
  > >
  > > >> I just struggle with an appropriate punishment for people
  > > who commit
  > > crimes such as this
  > >
  > > This one is easy:
  > >
  > > Suspend the prisoner over a pen of hungry pigs just inches
  > > from how far up they can jump or rise on their hind legs.
  > > make a small incision on each leg to get the blood flowing
  > > and get the pigs stoked. Apply a tourniquet to the upper
  > > thighs and lower the prisoner one inch every hour. When the
  > > legs are gone just below the bandages raise the prisoner and
  > > rotate them so that they hang upside down and lower on inch
  > > an hour until the prisoner is dead.
  > >
  > > -----Original Message-----
  > > From: Tangorre, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  > > Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 9:01 AM
  > > To: CF-Community
  > > Subject: RE: Some people...
  > >
  > >
  > > > What a tragedy. The death penalty would not have prevented this.
  > > > Without knowing more the guy who did it is most likely a
  > psychiatric
  > > > case. That doesn't make it right or excuse anything. It simply
  > > > magnifies the tragedy.
  > >
  > > I was not thinking that the death penalty would have
  > > prevented this, I just struggle with an appropriate
  > > punishment for people who commit crimes such as this... Just
  > > makes me sick.
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  > >
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  > >
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