now that he and the Ba'athist party did not have anything to do with
9/11 or Al Queda. Its like Jerry Fallwell cooperating with Hugh
Hefner.
larry
On Fri, 13 Aug 2004 16:50:40 -0500, Andy Ousterhout
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Larry,
>
> This is not a tough question. Did you or did you not believe at the time of
> the war that Sadaam was involved with 9/11? This poll does not cover WMD's or
> reality as you know it today.
>
> May I register you as:
> NO
> CENTER
>
> Andy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 4:30 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Poll - Did you believe Sadaam was involved with 9/11 at the start
> of the war? (Was Right-Wingers)
>
>
> It really depends on the definition of liberal. Having lived in 3
> countries, not including my term in the Canadian military, I was
> considered conservative in England, moderate to conservative in Canada
> and liberal here in the US. At the same time the only political party
> I ever joined was the Progressive Conservative Party in Canada. So
> take your pick, it really depends on where your biases are.
>
> As far as Saddam's support of terrorists, again that depends. There
> was never any connection between Al-Queda beyond some initial very
> preliminary contacts which were discontinued quickly. Hussien and
> Al-Queda were very different and ideologically were poles apart. The
> secular B'aathist party ws considered anathema to the fundimentalist
> Islamicist philosophy.
>
> It is undisputed however that he did give money to Hamas and similar
> groups, and may have supported the families of suicide bombers. BTW
> was that ever conclusively proven, as in some family actually getting
> a bundle of bills or a cheque? At the same time this country, either
> officially or unofficially, has also supported terrorism, just not
> necessarily middle eastern terrorist groups. We are not pure in this
> matter either.
>
> As for WMD's I read the reports issued by the UN and similar groups. I
> also read the later reports of the pressures put on the US
> intelligence communities by the current administration to reach a
> foregone conclusion. It was obvious early on that the UN inspectors,
> who were engaged in a very intrusive inspection protocol had it right.
> It was also obvious that the administration was looking for any excuse
> to go to war, almost to the point of manufacturing evidence. That was
> completely wrong. The evidence points to the Iraqi destruction of
> WMD's in the early to mid 1990's. Why he did not publicize it I do not
> know, it could have been an elaborate bluff as a way to prevent an
> invasion by his neighbours. Essentially then Saddam Hussein was no
> more involved in 9/11 than I was.
>
> larry
>
> On Fri, 13 Aug 2004 15:54:27 -0500, Andy Ousterhout
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Doug,
> >
> > I've never listened to that wind bag and don't plan on starting. I fully
> > believe that Rush is part of the problem, not part of the solution.
> >
> > I am just stating facts about people I know and the discussions I've had,
> > included those with people on this list. I've heard lots of folks stating
> > that "people" believed there was a direct connection, but no one has said
> that
> > they were in that camp. So....
> >
> > Let's do a little poll from those on this list: Did you believe that
> Sadaam
> > was involved in 9/11 at the start of the war and do you consider yourself
> > Left, Right or Center?
> >
> > Andy
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Doug White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 3:34 PM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: Re: Right-wingers - Iraq & 9/11 Was ( Washington Post issues mea
> > culpa for prewar coverage)
> >
> > I get it from polls quoted by your friend, Rush, and polls run by Fox
> News,
> > as
> > well as others.
> > I likewise agree that this thinking permeates both sides of the aisle,
> but
> > don't
> > try to assert to me that the majority of republican voters are completely
> > clear
> > on this subject, because they just aren't.
> > The religious evangelist types, ignore this completely as they are mostly
> > single
> > issue voters, and support the "family values" platform.
> > This is my take on the campaign so far.
> >
> > Even Rush quoted today the most current Bush approval rating poll shows
> him
> > down
> > to 51%, his lowest since taking office.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Andy Ousterhout
> >
> > Doug,
> >
> > I don't know of a single right-winger who thinks that Iraq had any
> > involvement
> > in 9/11. I do know a number of left wingers who think that this is
> what
> > right-wingers think.
> >
> > I've read this comment many times from those who are against the war.
> > Just
> > how/where did you gain this perspective?
> >
> > Andy
> >
> >
>
>
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