Lately Bush has been running ads here saying that he wants to do this
that and the other...increase access to health care and so on. I find
myself asking the TV why he hasn't done these things in the LAST four
years :)

Dana

----- Original Message -----
From: Kevin Graeme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 12:48:21 -0500
Subject: Re: The Sam Factor! (Fox News can legally lie?)
To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 10:43:15 -0500, Andy Ousterhout
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ok.  I've never seen Kerry talk about any of these views.  

http://www.johnkerry.com

I'm guessing you're not in a contended State. We get the TV ads
constantly here from both sides and Kerry's are more issue based than
attack; whereas, the Bush ads tend to be more about attacking Kerry
though there are some that are issues.

Do I think that it's feasible to believe that he will achieve all
those issues? No. But that's par for the course.

> So while it is easy to call a view "tautlogy", which I am not even sure that
> the heck that means,

A tautology is a type of logical argument.

>he doesn't have a record of being for anything.  Being
> against something is entirely different that being for anything.  For example,
> I am against poverty, hunger and poor education.  That's easy.  The problem is
> to select HOW you are going to solve each, what specific activities you are
> FOR, then making an effort to implement them.  So, I disagree that being
> against something is the same as being for something else.

In order to be against something, to have a strong enough opinion that
it is wrong means you have some idea that there is some alternative,
some opposite, something you are for. That means, that "against"
predicates a "for".  They are mirrors of each other.. From which
perspective you look at it from is up to you.

Personally, I don't know how in all those "for"s I listed that Kerry
would acheive them. I don't know how Bush will achieve the things he
says he will do. They both put out what they intend to do, but neither
can concretely say if they will be achieved. I like some of the things
Bush is for, and I'm against other things. In the last four years,
often the things that Bush was for that I supported got dropped in
favor of the things I didn't support. Things like working to stop the
spread of AIDS got dropped in favor of a search for WMD and corporate
welfare for oil companies.

I know that you and I differ on what issues are important. But to not
know what issues Kerry is for floors me.

-Kevin________________________________
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