Ron, Yes I do think that NLP has very little scientific veracity. Its more of a collection of anecdotes than anything else. I took a graduate counseling course in NLP and wasn't too impressed. Moreover I have not seen a study that supported its theoretical basis that was anywhere near valid - so many holes in the designs that any conclusions the authors reached could only be considered useless. Typically these studies used only one sample, no controls, major subject biasing (one study used students in an NLP course), neither experimenters nor subjects were blind to experimental conditions. I could go on and on.
On the other side the vast majority of studies showed very little support for NLP. For instance in the 1980's Nick Spanos of Carleton University in Ottawa, Ontario, Canada studied the so-called different language types - am using the wrong term here - its been a while since I worked with NLP. According to Bandler and Grinder there are 4 types - visual, auditory, kinesthetic, and cognitive. Bandler and Grinder predicted that by using the person's language type the person would be more responsive to hypnosis, and less responsive if the induction used some other modality. Spanos demonstrated that there simply was no difference whether or not the hypnotic induction's language modality was congruent with the person's orientation. In other words it didn't matter if the person was visually oriented and the induction was as well or whether the induction was oriented towards kinesthetic modality. Other research found similar effects were found with involuntary eye movements. Bandler and Grinder predicted that there would be a close correspondence between the direction of eye movements and language modality. Several studies found no relation between the two. In a nutshell the preponderance of evidence demonstrated no empirical validity for NLP. larry -- Larry C. Lyons ColdFusion/Web Developer EBStor.com 8870 Rixlew Lane, Suite 204 Manassas, Virginia 20109-3795 tel: (703) 393-7930 fax: (703) 393-2659 Web: http://www.ebstor.com http://www.pacel.com email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done. -- > -----Original Message----- > From: Ron Hornbaker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 7:07 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: CIA Almost had Bin Laden, Saudis said No. > > > That joke sucks. You're nuts. > > (Who said NLP was irrational... Larry??) > > :) > -Ron > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Braver, Ben [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 5:44 PM > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: RE: CIA Almost had Bin Laden, Saudis said No. > > > > > > Mark, > > > > Are ya implying that Clinton had a chance to nab bin Laden, but > > Monica blew > > it? > > 8-)) > > > > -Ben > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Mark Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 3:36 PM > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: RE: CIA Almost had Bin Laden, Saudis said No. > > > > > > Do you think that Monica Lewinski had anything to do with that? She > > could have been under Bills desk administering a hummer > when he made the > > decision to give up. All males know that you can't make correct > > decisions when your under that kind of, um, pleasure. > > > > Mark > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Angel Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 3:05 PM > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: CIA Almost had Bin Laden, Saudis said No. > > > > > > http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A61251-2001Oct2.html > > > > "Washington Post Staff Writer > > Wednesday, October 3, 2001; Page A01 > > > > > > The government of Sudan, employing a back channel direct from its > > president > > to the Central Intelligence Agency, offered in the early > spring of 1996 > > to > > arrest Osama bin Laden and place him in Saudi custody, according to > > officials and former officials in all three countries. > > > > The Clinton administration struggled to find a way to > accept the offer > > in > > secret contacts that stretched from a meeting at a Rosslyn hotel on > > March 3, > > 1996, to a fax that closed the door on the effort 10 weeks > later. Unable > > to > > persuade the Saudis to accept bin Laden, and lacking a case > to indict > > him in > > U.S. courts at the time, the Clinton administration finally > gave up on > > the > > capture." > > > > > > JAH! > > > > *shakes head* > > Yeah..like more laws and less civil rights going to prevent > sh** like > > that > > from happening in the future. > > > > -Gel > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
