(Audiotape, Meet the Press April 18, 1971):

SEN. KERRY: There are all kinds of atrocities, and I
would have to say that, yes, yes, I committed the same
kind of atrocities as thousands of other soldiers have
committed in that I took part in shootings in free
fire zones. I conducted harassment and interdiction
fire. I used 50 calibre machine guns, which we were
granted and ordered to use, which were our only weapon
against people. I took part in search and destroy
missions, in the burning of villages. All of this is
contrary to the laws of warfare, all of this is
contrary to the Geneva Conventions and all of this is
ordered as a matter of written established policy by
the government of the United States from the top down.
And I believe that the men who designed these, the men
who designed the free fire zone, the men who ordered
us, the men who signed off the air raid strike areas,
I think these men, by the letter of the law, the same
letter of the law that tried Lieutenant Calley, are
war criminals.

On May 6, 2001 Tim Russert interviewed Senator John
Kerry on Meet the Press.

MR. RUSSERT: Thirty years later, you stand by that?

SEN. KERRY: I don't stand by the genocide. I think
those were the words of an angry young man. We did not
try to do that. But I do stand by the description--I
don't even believe there is a purpose served in the
word "war criminal." I really don't. But I stand by
the rest of what happened over there, Tim.

--- Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> I just heard an excerpt from "The Choice", a PBS/NPR
> program.  In it
> was some of Mr. Kerry's testimony from Congress in
> the 70s - the part
> you always hear about him listing the atrocities.
>
> I hadn't paid that much attention before, but I
> noticed that it wasn't
> he that was making those charges.  He was reciting a
> list that a group
> of veterans in Detroit had come up with.  That is,
> he was just the
> spokeman for the group, not saying that he himself
> saw any of those
> things.
>
> Anyway, maybe I heard it wrong or you already know
> this, but I thought
> it was interesting.  If it's true that he was just
> reading a group
> list, that was definitely spun a different way in my
> head.
>
> gg
>
>
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