Has anybody given any thought as to whether religion and science can co-exist? What if creation and evolution are one in the same? The theory goes like this: God created the heavens and the earth through evolution
If God is the supreme being, then certainly he could have created evolution, right? Any thoughts? Mark -----Original Message----- From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 3:31 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: fallwell is a nutter - happy geo?? Evolution is about as proven as a scientific theory can be, almost to the point it can be thought to be a law, like gravity. To be honest though it still is thought to be a theory. The mechanism behind evolution though is where the most interesting scientific debates are, such as punctuated evolution or neo-Darwinism etc. larry -- Larry C. Lyons ColdFusion/Web Developer EBStor.com 8870 Rixlew Lane, Suite 204 Manassas, Virginia 20109-3795 tel: (703) 393-7930 fax: (703) 393-2659 Web: http://www.ebstor.com http://www.pacel.com email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done. -- > -----Original Message----- > From: Stephenie Hamilton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 3:32 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: fallwell is a nutter - happy geo?? > > > yeah, but see, one of the things you just said "evolution > theory" evolution > is now taught in most schools as fact, whereas when i was a > kid in school, > it was just that...a theory, now in my childrens book it is > no longer listed > as a theory and no other "theories" are taught, just evolution.... > > ~~ > steph > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Larry Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 3:18 PM > Subject: RE: fallwell is a nutter - happy geo?? > > > > All too true. Its far easier to have your thoughts and > beliefs handed down > > from on high than working them out for yourself. Moreover > when schools > have > > tried to include sections on critical thinking the school > boards have been > > deluged with angry parents parroting what semi-educated > fundimentalist > > essentially told them to say from in the pulpit that I've > been more than a > > bit disgusted. A wonderful example are the reoccurring > debates regarding > > teaching evolutionary theory in the schools, and attempts > to get schools > to > > teach creationism. > > > > larry > > > > -- > > Larry C. Lyons > > ColdFusion/Web Developer > > EBStor.com > > 8870 Rixlew Lane, Suite 204 > > Manassas, Virginia 20109-3795 > > tel: (703) 393-7930 > > fax: (703) 393-2659 > > Web: http://www.ebstor.com > > http://www.pacel.com > > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done. > > -- > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Gary P. McNeel, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 3:14 PM > > > To: CF-Community > > > Subject: RE: fallwell is a nutter - happy geo?? > > > > > > > > > That seems to be growing in our country and around the world > > > Larry. In the > > > recent Scientific American they had survey that shows people > > > increasingly > > > believe that you can talk with the dead, etc. Was scary, frankly. > > > > > > Like this guy on the sci-fi channel that talks with the dead. John > > > something. It is soooo obvious that he is cold reading them, > > > not that that > > > is not impressive, it is a great skill, but we all do that in > > > a roundabout > > > way everyday, to a lesser degree. It is called eye > contact and body > > > language. Watch how intently he watches the people and their > > > interactions > > > with each other. > > > > > > He does it in a way that makes people feel good about the > > > loose of a loved > > > one. You'll never hear him say, "Oh, yeah, no they are in > > > insufferable agony > > > from the burns they received as they died." He fishes > > > constantly. Watch it a > > > few times and look how often he says, "there name begins with > > > John, Jim, > > > something like J or G, I'm getting...." Uh, yeah. Like that > > > is not the most > > > common name in the US. I wonder if he can talk to dead > people in their > > > native language? So when you die, and you go, um, whereever, > > > do we all talk > > > a common language? Is it English? French? Swahili? Would your > > > name still > > > sound like John in Hindustani? Hmmm. Amazing. I love the idea > > > of the dead > > > wanting to contact us, you know, to settle unfinished > > > business. Couldn't > > > they wait until we die to settle it? Like they have nothing > > > better to do. Or > > > maybe being dead is pretty boring. > > > > > > -Gary > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 12:14 PM > > > > To: CF-Community > > > > Subject: RE: fallwell is a nutter - happy geo?? > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm not sure if its funny or sad, but Falwell and his followers > > > > really mean > > > > it. When I was teaching an intro psych course, at a community > > > > college in the > > > > area, I had a couple of students in the class from Liberty > > > > University. Real > > > > scary drones types, they had a lot of problems with > > > independent critical > > > > thinking. > > > > > > > > larry > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Larry C. Lyons > > > > ColdFusion/Web Developer > > > > EBStor.com > > > > 8870 Rixlew Lane, Suite 204 > > > > Manassas, Virginia 20109-3795 > > > > tel: (703) 393-7930 > > > > fax: (703) 393-2659 > > > > Web: http://www.ebstor.com > > > > http://www.pacel.com > > > > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done. > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: Will Swain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 12:01 PM > > > > > To: CF-Community > > > > > Subject: RE: fallwell is a nutter - happy geo?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > larry, > > > > > > > > > > i'd like to thank you for giving me a good laugh on this > > > > > otherwise dull > > > > > monday afternoon. > > > > > > > > > > thanks, and have a good day yourself. > > > > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > Sent: 29 October 2001 16:56 > > > > > To: CF-Community > > > > > Subject: RE: fallwell is a nutter - happy geo?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > BTW here's the article from his Liberty Journal: > > > > > http://www.liberty.edu/chancellor/nlj/feb99/politics2.htm > > > > > > > > > > always good to go to the source. > > > > > > > > > > larry > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Larry C. Lyons > > > > > ColdFusion/Web Developer > > > > > EBStor.com > > > > > 8870 Rixlew Lane, Suite 204 > > > > > Manassas, Virginia 20109-3795 > > > > > tel: (703) 393-7930 > > > > > fax: (703) 393-2659 > > > > > Web: http://www.ebstor.com > > > > > http://www.pacel.com > > > > > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done. > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > From: Larry Lyons > > > > > > Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 11:53 AM > > > > > > To: CF-Community > > > > > > Subject: RE: fallwell is a nutter - happy geo?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > His reasoning was fairly amazing. Here's an account of it > > > > > > originally from > > > > > > CNN: > > > > > > http://www.gabrielmedia.org/news/falwell_teletubbies.html > > > > > > > > > > > > larry > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Larry C. Lyons > > > > > > ColdFusion/Web Developer > > > > > > EBStor.com > > > > > > 8870 Rixlew Lane, Suite 204 > > > > > > Manassas, Virginia 20109-3795 > > > > > > tel: (703) 393-7930 > > > > > > fax: (703) 393-2659 > > > > > > Web: http://www.ebstor.com > > > > > > http://www.pacel.com > > > > > > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done. > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > From: Will Swain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > > > Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 11:45 AM > > > > > > > To: CF-Community > > > > > > > Subject: fallwell is a nutter - happy geo?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > haha > > > > > > > hahahahaha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > seriously? this 'person' really does have too much time on > > > > > > > his hands. i > > > > > > > suppose mickey mouse was a dope fiend, pluto an alcoholic > > > > > > and minnie a > > > > > > > lesbian...... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oh well, the dangers of freedom of speech i guess. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > > > Sent: 29 October 2001 16:38 > > > > > > > To: CF-Community > > > > > > > Subject: RE: Re[2]: beauuuuutiful friday > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One of his better ones was that he accused > tinkywinky of the > > > > > > > teletubbies of > > > > > > > being gay. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > larry > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > Larry C. Lyons > > > > > > > ColdFusion/Web Developer > > > > > > > EBStor.com > > > > > > > 8870 Rixlew Lane, Suite 204 > > > > > > > Manassas, Virginia 20109-3795 > > > > > > > tel: (703) 393-7930 > > > > > > > fax: (703) 393-2659 > > > > > > > Web: http://www.ebstor.com > > > > > > > http://www.pacel.com > > > > > > > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done. > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > > From: Mark Smyth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > > > > Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 11:28 AM > > > > > > > > To: CF-Community > > > > > > > > Subject: RE: Re[2]: beauuuuutiful friday > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yes will > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > he sounds like a muppet with a capital M > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but I think we have a few like him over here > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > > From: Will Swain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > > > > Sent: 29 October 2001 16:27 > > > > > > > > To: CF-Community > > > > > > > > Subject: RE: Re[2]: beauuuuutiful friday > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WOW...this guy is far out.. i mean really really gone. > > > > > a christian > > > > > > > > fundamentalist, he must feel like he has alot > in common with > > > > > > > > his Islamic > > > > > > > > counterparts. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > does he have a great deal of support? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and why don't we have people like him in the uk? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > scared will > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > > From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > > > > Sent: 29 October 2001 16:17 > > > > > > > > To: CF-Community > > > > > > > > Subject: RE: Re[2]: beauuuuutiful friday > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He's an extremist fundamentalist Baptist minister from > > > > > > > > Lynchburg Virginia > > > > > > > > (see Falwell.com or the Thomas Road Baptist > Church website: > > > > > > > > http://www.trbc.org/) . Very right wing. He > used to run a > > > > > > > > group called the > > > > > > > > Moral Majority in the 80's. Along with Pat > Robertson, he's > > > > > > > > the American > > > > > > > > equivalent of the Taleban. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > larry > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > Larry C. Lyons > > > > > > > > ColdFusion/Web Developer > > > > > > > > EBStor.com > > > > > > > > 8870 Rixlew Lane, Suite 204 > > > > > > > > Manassas, Virginia 20109-3795 > > > > > > > > tel: (703) 393-7930 > > > > > > > > fax: (703) 393-2659 > > > > > > > > Web: http://www.ebstor.com > > > > > > > > http://www.pacel.com > > > > > > > > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > > > From: Will Swain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > > > > > Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 11:09 AM > > > > > > > > > To: CF-Community > > > > > > > > > Subject: RE: Re[2]: beauuuuutiful friday > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lost now.....not american....who is jerry falwell???? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is he like geri haliwell??? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > confused will > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > > > From: Todd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > > > > > Sent: 29 October 2001 16:00 > > > > > > > > > To: CF-Community > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Re[2]: beauuuuutiful friday > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So .. not only is he a hatefull bigot, but he's > > > also a coward > > > > > > > > > who can't > > > > > > > > > stand by his statements. I *might* have a > > > *little* respect > > > > > > > > > for the man if > > > > > > > > > he would at least stand up and say "Yeah, I > said it and I > > > > > > > > > don't care what > > > > > > > > > you think, so screw you too!". Heh .. then again, > > > > > probably not. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Todd > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > > > From: "Larry Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > > Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 10:30 AM > > > > > > > > > Subject: RE: Re[2]: beauuuuutiful friday > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just look at jerry falwell. Aside from his wonderful > > > > > > > > > "mistatements" from > > > > > > > > > > last September, now he's saying he was > misquoted by the > > > > > > > > > liberal media. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > Larry C. 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