They HAVE accomplished what they wanted---they have taken our rights of privacy
away. More will follow.


"Gary P. McNeel, Jr." wrote:

> What did I say a month ago? More government. More budget. More rhetoric.
> What the hell is the CIA and FBI and NSA and the other 17 "Homeland Defense"
> organizations for.
>
> Now the military can't get this guy bin Laden. The Brit populance is unhappy
> about all this. There are no clear objectives (anyone remember Powell saying
> what you should have BEFORE starting a war, which is not a declared War, on
> something nebulous). Where is Bush and all his "We are going to kick their
> ass", rhetoric. That is all it was, face appearance to drive up the approval
> ratings.
>
> -Gary
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jon Hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2001 2:21 AM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: Re: Ashcroft to announce details ofa new terrorist threat..
> >
> >
> > I'd agree...to a point. While I feel that the government has the duty to
> > tell us, even more than it is now. I dont feel it was necessary for
> > Attorney General Ashcroft himself to hold a press conference right in
> > the middle of the evening news to get the message out. That's a little
> > overdoing it, if you ask me. So either the threat is very real and very
> > serious (we will know in a few days...), or more than likely he is
> > playing politics with the new Director of Homeland Security Mr.
> > Whatsisface from Pennsylvania.
> >  The Attorney General is usually the chief law enforcement official for
> > the entire country. With the new Homeland security office taking over
> > whatever it is they are taking over, they are going to get all of the
> > glory for any good news in this situation. So in the truest American
> > tradition, Ashcroft is going to play the, whoever gets on television the
> > most wins card.
> >
> > On kind of a tangent, we got a call on a web site for a company that
> > makes some device that they are selling to the Homeland Security
> > department. A whole new government bureaucracy and it took less than a
> > month to put the red tape in motion. We couldn't get rid of it now even
> > if we tried. That's one way to get the public spending again in this
> > economy. Just spend it for them.
> >
> > rant rant rant...blah blah blah
> >
> > jon
> >
> > Angel Stewart wrote:
> >
> > >*rolls eyes*
> > >
> > >Wait..didn't they say this two weeks ago? And the week before that?
> > >Weren't these attacks supposed to happen on Halloween?
> > >
> > >God I would hate to be living in America now.
> > >Pretty soon the public is going to get so saturated with these
> > >'warnings' that they're going to annoy them.
> > >
> > >Tell me..what is the PURPOSE of telling the public that there could be a
> > >massive Terrorist attack in the next week, but we don't know what it is,
> > >who's going to do it, or where it is going to be ? If that's true then
> > >people should be FIRED!
> > >Starting from the TOP of the CIA/FBI and going down, because that is
> > >bullshit.
> > >
> > >All this could be is the widely known "Cover Your Ass" scheme. So if it
> > >does happen they can say," Hey..we knew about it this time..and we told
> > >you.."
> > >
> > >And hope the public doesn't say, "What the f***? You took away our
> > >privacy, increased your budget, increased your powers and did away with
> > >judicial review of many of your procedures, and you STILL can't catch
> > >these people?"
> > >
> > >*mutter*
> > >*grumble*
> > >
> > >Morons in congress..morons running the blasted Defender of the Free
> > >West.
> > >
> > >-Gel
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> 
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