Does the CSS box model make sense to the rest of you? Why wouldn't the border be included in the overall width property? I can understand why the margin should not be, but width and padding make up the overall object's size...wtf? I'm trying to get a <input type="text"... /> field with a border of 1px to span 100% within a td, but I can't figure out a way to make it work "correctly". Is this really what I have to deal with for the next 5+ years? Tyler
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