Go for it. At the very least I'll be reading it. It just has taken me
all morning to find out why a simple cost variable (quantity * price)
was showing up as 0 - as it turned out it was being set in an include
that should not have been in there in the first place. I'll be so glad
when we dumpthis whole shopping cart system, for a CFC.

larry


On Fri, 3 Dec 2004 11:00:04 -0500, Michael Dinowitz
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm working on the tracker code at the moment over remote desktop from home.
> It's that bad (the situation). :)
> The MN code isn't that bad because it works and I have time to clean and
> optimize it. Problem is finding what I need in the mess. A template should not
> have more than 3-5 included templates, not 30-50. A CFC should do the work and
> only the work its meant to do, not get convoluted into doing 20 different
> functions.
> That's it, I'm writing another article on this. After the article on 
> optimizing
> CF by optimizing your system and the different ways to display large data
> chunks. I feel the need to write.
> 
> 
> 
> > I can sympathize with you Mike. I'm in the middle of taking a huge
> > site that is nothing but spaghetti code written in CF 3.1/4.5,
> > convoluted, twisted EVIL spaghetti code whose sole purpose was to
> > provide someone long ago with job security,  and convert the whole
> > thing into CFMX, and improve on it at the same time. The organization
> > is so conservative that they seriously asked if printing out the order
> > forms and faxing it in wouldn't be better. and its all due in a week.
> >
> > Given all that Ray's code or the code from mothernature.com is not all that
> bad.
> >
> > larry
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 3 Dec 2004 01:13:05 -0500, Michael Dinowitz
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > <CF_Rant>
> > > I have to let it out a bit.
> > > I spent today home resting and playing with code. What type of code? Low
> level
> > > optimization of Blackstone templates. Learned a lot of stuff. Found
> different
> > > ways to do things that are tighter than what I was doing before. Talked 
> > > with
> > > people at MM about what I found. All in all, it was great. I loved it. It
> was
> > > what I was meant to do. Investigation, documentation, optimization and
> creation
> > > of new things. In being so happy with what I was doing the realization 
> > > that
> I
> > > just am not enthusiastic about my job hit me.
> > > The work I'm actually getting paid for is to make mothernature.com work,
> upgrade
> > > their systems, etc. Nice work and all, but I'm steadily losing my 
> > > enthusiasm
> for
> > > it as it's really kind of grunt work. I spent yesterday rewriting 
> > > Raymond's
> > > bugtracker into a project tracker for them.
> > > "Why not just get a different package?"
> > > "Because we're already using this and it shouldn't take you any time to
> convert
> > > the whole thing to DB and add in the new features."
> > > Riiiiight. It wasn't so hard to convert, but took a little time. Why?
> Because it
> > > was grunt work and I hate grunt work. A trained monkey can convert a 
> > > spectra
> > > like bugtracker to use DB. This is basically what I have to deal with 
> > > every
> day.
> > > Grunt work with no real intelligence needed. Bug fixes to a code base
> written by
> > > someone who should be shot. A publicly traded company sitting on a code 
> > > base
> > > that 'works', but is so convoluted that it takes more time to hunt down a
> bug
> > > (through dozens of templates per page) than to fix it.
> > > Why can't I get a job where I can do what I want to do. I want to write. I
> want
> > > to investigate. I want to write clean, tight code from scratch that is
> > > beautiful. I want to live in the art and beauty that is simple, tight 
> > > code.
> > > Today I rewrote the article display page for FA (final version). Do you 
> > > know
> > > it's about 6 lines of code.
> > > I want to do that for everything. I want to let everyone know what I'm
> doing. I
> > > want to do so much and I'm stuck working.
> > > Yep, the rant is all about work which is foolish. I know people who are 
> > > out
> of
> > > work. I was out of work for a nice sized chunk of time. I should not
> complain,
> > > especially as I have mouths to feed. I just want more out of life. I want 
> > > to
> > > help people. I want to enjoy what I do. I want to build all the cool stuff
> > > that's sitting in my head. I want to be cloned!
> > > </CF_Rant>
> > > --
> > > Michael Dinowitz
> > > House of Fusion
> > > http://www.houseoffusion.com
> > > Finding technical solutions to the problems you didn't know you had yet
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> 
> 

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