I'm waiting for part 2 so I can see if it changed any. I've seen a lot from canada when it comes to Jews and Jewish issues that has not made me feel it's a place I'd want to be living, but I'll wait till I see an actual study (and not riots)
> Hey Michael, I am not saying this was right, but it was in 1948... > > Dana > > > On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 23:59:21 -0500, Michael Dinowitz > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Well, based on this article, it's definitly oh canada. Nice to gays, but >> if >> your a Jew forget about it. >> http://www.cjnews.com/viewarticle.asp?id=5095 >> >> >> > Tangorre, Michael wrote: >> >> GO CANADA! >> > >> > No, no. "Oh! Canada". Get your facts straight. :-) >> > >> > --Ben >> > >> > >> > >> >> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Gold Sponsor - CFHosting.net http://www.cfhosting.net Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:140138 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54 From jeff Thu Dec 16 04:10:44 2004 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-Date: Wed Dec 15 20:10:44 2004 Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Envelope-to: [email protected] Delivery-date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 20:10:44 -0800 Received: from exprod5mx31.postini.com ([64.18.0.186] helo=psmtp.com) by toko.jab.org with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1CemyS-0000x8-00 for <[email protected]>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 20:10:44 -0800 Received: from source ([64.118.64.245]) by exprod5mx31.postini.com ([64.18.4.10]) with SMTP; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 20:13:25 PST Received: from LOCALHOST by LOCALHOST with ESMTP id 0F570F92E7D06B449663AF2A2CD8A7D6 Wed, 15 Dec 2004 23:15:02 -0500 Subject: Re: Canada Goes to Hell From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Dinowitz) Content-Type: text/plain Precedence: bulk Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 00:12:51 -0500 References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-pstn-levels: (S:99.90000/99.90000 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:94.5022 C:98.9754 ) X-pstn-settings: 1 (0.1500:0.1500) gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> forward (good recip) [294/10] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on toko.jab.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=no version=2.64 I'm waiting for part 2 so I can see if it changed any. I've seen a lot from canada when it comes to Jews and Jewish issues that has not made me feel it's a place I'd want to be living, but I'll wait till I see an actual study (and not riots) > Hey Michael, I am not saying this was right, but it was in 1948... > > Dana > > > On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 23:59:21 -0500, Michael Dinowitz > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Well, based on this article, it's definitly oh canada. Nice to gays, but >> if >> your a Jew forget about it. >> http://www.cjnews.com/viewarticle.asp?id=5095 >> >> >> > Tangorre, Michael wrote: >> >> GO CANADA! >> > >> > No, no. "Oh! Canada". Get your facts straight. :-) >> > >> > --Ben >> > >> > >> > >> >> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Gold Sponsor - CFHosting.net http://www.cfhosting.net Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:140138 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54 From jeff Thu Dec 16 04:10:55 2004 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-Date: Wed Dec 15 20:10:55 2004 Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Envelope-to: [email protected] Delivery-date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 20:10:55 -0800 Received: from exprod5mx32.postini.com ([64.18.0.187] helo=psmtp.com) by toko.jab.org with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1Cemyd-0000xY-00 for <[email protected]>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 20:10:55 -0800 Received: from source ([64.245.160.7]) by exprod5mx32.postini.com ([64.18.4.10]) with SMTP; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 20:13:37 PST Received: from smtp1.orcsweb.com [66.129.69.221] by mail.activedir.org with ESMTP (SMTPD32-8.11) id AB59271E00F6; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 23:13:13 -0500 Received: from orcsweb4.orcsweb.com ([66.129.69.201]) by smtp1.orcsweb.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Wed, 15 Dec 2004 23:13:15 -0500 Received: from main [67.140.251.38] by orcsweb4.orcsweb.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-8.14) id AB573D300104; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 23:13:11 -0500 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> From: "Scott Forsyth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Sequence LDAP query Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 23:13:05 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.3790.1218 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.1218 X-Note: This E-mail was scanned by Declude JunkMail (www.declude.com) for spam. Organization: Your Name Here X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Dec 2004 04:13:15.0407 (UTC) FILETIME=[90B199F0:01C4E325] Precedence: bulk Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-pstn-levels: (S:99.90000/99.90000 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:94.8624 C:98.9754 ) X-pstn-settings: 1 (0.1500:0.1500) gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [294/10] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on toko.jab.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.64 Al, That was my thought exactly. In fact I didn't even test before posting here because I wouldn't have assumed it would work like that. I assume that it's the client that only uses the first or last object in the list since LDAP would return all possible values. Scott Forsyth Microsoft MVP - ASP/ASP.NET ASPInsider Member - MCP http://www.orcsweb.com/ Powerful Web Hosting Solutions #1 in Service and Support ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mulnick, Al" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2004 9:18 PM Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Sequence LDAP query Scott, exactly how are you testing that? I haven't been looking to see which order an OR is returned in the past, but that is not what I would expect as an answer back from the servers in a working configuration. I would expect that criteria to continue looking for all matches to the filter for each of the records it's looking at. Finding one and stopping is not what I would expect unless that's how the client is implementing it. Just curious here. al -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12/15/2004 6:02 PM Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Sequence LDAP query Sorry, I haven't met anyone on this list yet (except Steve Schofield who introduced me to the list). I've looked up your website and it looks like you have a great soluton. Too bad I didn't know about it a few months ago when researching which Spam solution to go with. I've figured it out. In fact it took just a simple test. The simple OR command against an indexed column actually works in order. If I run the following two tests: (|([EMAIL PROTECTED])([EMAIL PROTECTED])) (|([EMAIL PROTECTED])([EMAIL PROTECTED])) The first filter one will return the record for scott@ and the 2nd will return the record for nobody@ So, it actually searches in order starting from the end. This is exactly what I was looking for. Originally I assumed that it would just search all the records and the first that met either criteria would be returned so depending on what order it was entered into AD, I would get a different result. I assume for non-indexed fields, that might be the case because it would search them all one by one. But in the case of an indexed field, it sounds like MS/LDAP jumps right to the index, starting with the end of the query and moving forward. (mail is an indexed attribute) So, I believe I've overcome the last obstacle and am ready to finish implimenting. Thanks again! I'll start to work with AD a lot in the near future so I might start to hang out in this newsgroup now and may see more of you in the future. Scott Forsyth Microsoft MVP - ASP/ASP.NET ASPInsider Member - MCP http://www.orcsweb.com/ Powerful Web Hosting Solutions #1 in Service and Support ----- Original Message ----- From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2004 4:47 PM Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Sequence LDAP query Sorry, Scott. But at this point, I will have to take the fifth :) I compete with Barracuda. Sincerely, D�j� Ak�m�l�f�, MCSE+M MCSA+M MCP+I Microsoft MVP - Directory Services www.readymaids.com - we know IT www.akomolafe.com Do you now realize that Today is the Tomorrow you were worried about Yesterday? -anon ________________________________ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Scott Forsyth Sent: Wed 12/15/2004 12:52 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Sequence LDAP query Thanks to all of you for your replies. Sure, I'll explain more. I tried to keep it brief the first time so it didn't scare anyone off. :) I have a Barracuda Spam filter (www.barracudanetworks.com) and use iMail server on the mail end. (www.ipswitch.com). I've created a script that places all the iMail users and aliases into AD since the LDAP feature of iMail doesn't work with the number of users that we have. I need to be able to do is enable the LDAP feature on the Barracuda to query AD to see if an email address (either alias or POP account) is valid, and if it is valid it will find out the parent POP account and place any spam in the quarantine box for the POP accounts. The goal is that if there are multiple aliases pointing to a single POP account, there is only 1 quarantine box for all of them. This part I can do. Now, what I also need to be able to do is handle a catch-all email alias. (called a 'nobody' in iMail terms). In iMail, there is an alias called 'nobody' and it's always checked last in the order of operations, but if an alias doesn't exist and a POP account doesn't exist, then iMail will check for the nobody account to determine if it should sending to a catch-all account to reject the message. I need to be able to accomplish the same with the Barracuda. Barracuda support tells me that it isn't possible so my last option to make this happen is to use LDAP to overcome their short coming. The barracuda has the following fields: - LDAP username - LDAP password - LDAP Filter - LDAP Search Base So, really the only field that allows me any control is the LDAP Filter. If I could have a filter like Al suggested like this: (&(objectClass=user)(objectCategory=Person)(|([EMAIL PROTECTED])(mai l=no [EMAIL PROTECTED]))) but be sure that it will only check for the [EMAIL PROTECTED] if it couldn't find [EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't want to use the nobody account if there is a valid user or alias. But, I don't have any programming options. This has to all take place in the LDAP Filter field. The Sequence, <final> <last> LDAP commands seemed to me like a promising lead but I don't know LDAP except for what I've learned in the last few days. Thanks again! Scott Forsyth Microsoft MVP - ASP/ASP.NET ASPInsider Member - MCP http://www.orcsweb.com/ Powerful Web Hosting Solutions #1 in Service and Support ----- Original Message ----- From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2004 12:14 PM Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Sequence LDAP query Apparently, I missed [1] the important disclaimer that says you're limited in your options. What client tool are you referring to? If you have nothing against vbscript, then here is a functional script that you can use for what you've described. You just need to modify the "DC=blahblah" and the "instr()" part. Const ADS_SCOPE_SUBTREE = 2 Set objConnection = CreateObject("ADODB.Connection") Set objCommand = CreateObject("ADODB.Command") objConnection.Provider = "ADsDSOObject" objConnection.Open "Active Directory Provider" Set objCOmmand.ActiveConnection = objConnection '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' '''' ' ''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' ''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''Search for Users ''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' '''' ' ''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' ''''We use this to limit our searches to User accounts only 'uncomment all the lines below On Error Resume Next objCommand.CommandText = _ "Select cn,mail,distinguishedName from 'LDAP://DC=myDomain,DC=com'" objCommand.Properties("Page Size") = 1000 objCommand.Properties("Timeout") = 30 objCommand.Properties("Searchscope") = ADS_SCOPE_SUBTREE objCommand.Properties("Cache Results") = False Set objRecordSet = objCommand.Execute objRecordSet.MoveFirst Do Until objRecordSet.EOF objemailAddy = objRecordSet.Fields("mail").Value objDN = objRecordSet.Fields("distinguishedName").Value objCN = objRecordSet.Fields("cn").Value If instr(lcase(objemailAddy), "[EMAIL PROTECTED]") > 0 Then Wscript.Echo objemailAddy & vbTab & objCN & vbTab & objDN ElseIf instr(lcase(objemailAddy), "[EMAIL PROTECTED]") > 0 Then Wscript.Echo objemailAddy & vbTab & objCN & vbTab & objDN End If objRecordset.MoveNext Loop Set objCOmmand.ActiveConnection = Nothing Set objCommand = Nothing Set objRecordSet = Nothing Set objConnection = Nothing [1]Oh, by the way, Al, you can stop laughing now ;) Sincerely, D�j� Ak�m�l�f�, MCSE+M MCSA+M MCP+I Microsoft MVP - Directory Services www.readymaids.com - we know IT www.akomolafe.com Do you now realize that Today is the Tomorrow you were worried about Yesterday? -anon ________________________________ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Deji Akomolafe Sent: Wed 12/15/2004 8:45 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Sequence LDAP query This is just a pseudo-code....... objCommand.CommandText = "Select mail from 'LDAP://DC=Domain,DC=com'" Set objRecordSet = objCommand.Execute objRecordSet.MoveFirst Do Until objRecordSet.EOF objemailAddy = objRecordSet.Fields("mail").Value If instr(lcase(objemailAddy), "[EMAIL PROTECTED]") > 0 Then Dosomething ElseIf instr(lcase(objemailAddy), "[EMAIL PROTECTED]") > 0 Then Dosomething End If objRecordset.MoveNext Loop ........ Sincerely, D�j� Ak�m�l�f�, MCSE+M MCSA+M MCP+I Microsoft MVP - Directory Services www.readymaids.com - we know IT www.akomolafe.com Do you now realize that Today is the Tomorrow you were worried about Yesterday? -anon ________________________________ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Scott Forsyth Sent: Tue 12/14/2004 10:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ActiveDir] Sequence LDAP query Hi all, I've subscribed to this list for this question so forgive me if this is something recently covered. I'm trying to do an LDAP query that appears to be uncommon. LDAP is new to me in the last few days so I'm starting from the ground up. Basically I need a filter something like this: (if [EMAIL PROTECTED] elseif [EMAIL PROTECTED]) In other words, it shouldn't check to see if [EMAIL PROTECTED] unless it has already checked [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'll explain the same thing a different way. If [EMAIL PROTECTED] exists, it needs to get that object from AD. But, if [EMAIL PROTECTED] doesn't exist, then check again and see if [EMAIL PROTECTED] exists. I hope I explained this well enough. I'm limited with the client tool to just a search filter field. I don't have any programming options. I've found a link that gives me hope that it is possible: http://www.packetizer.com/rfc/rfc.cgi?num=1558 Note the SEQUENCE OF CHOICE, initial, any and final. That sounds like what I'm looking for. I just don't know how to format the filter. My current filter that works but doesn't do the 2nd part looks like this: (mail=${recipient_email}) Is this possible with LDAP? Thanks, Scott Forsyth Microsoft MVP - ASP/ASP.NET ASPInsider Member - MCP http://www.orcsweb.com/ Powerful Web Hosting Solutions #1 in Service and Support --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] List info : http://www.activedir.org/mail_list.htm List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/list_faq.htm List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/mail_list.htm List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/list_faq.htm List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] List info : http://www.activedir.org/mail_list.htm List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/list_faq.htm List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ From jeff Thu Dec 16 04:11:00 2004 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-Date: Wed Dec 15 20:11:00 2004 Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Envelope-to: [email protected] Delivery-date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 20:11:00 -0800 Received: from exprod5mx115.postini.com ([64.18.0.87] helo=psmtp.com) by toko.jab.org with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1Cemyi-0000xj-00 for <[email protected]>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 20:11:00 -0800 Received: from source ([209.239.33.40]) by exprod5mx115.postini.com ([64.18.4.10]) with SMTP; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 20:13:42 PST Received: (from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) by host24.websitesource.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) id iBG4Dfg1030837 for [email protected]; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 23:13:42 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 23:12:24 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: host24.websitesource.com: dbrewer set sender to [EMAIL PROTECTED] using -f DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=VJWPaGnyYSg27k5oyVll1D5u0X08L2uXB7RJELPYVoJfQvqPB4gmsTOP8nk+sPZwps8Juwq07qw7UwiH/YVrPQwkbg6JYW96GROSwfJmClwUj5tv36bfutc3sU//ae/FuqcOUZ1gQW9DDj0a4QCGRDB8uQlhAUKVKcmf9om9pgQ= Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 23:12:24 -0500 From: frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT: Car Enabled In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Resent-Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailing-List: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> archive/latest/135107 X-Loop: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Precedence: list Resent-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-pstn-levels: (S:99.90000/99.90000 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:94.8624 C:98.9754 ) X-pstn-settings: 1 (0.1500:0.1500) gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [294/10] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on toko.jab.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.64 On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 08:25:17 -0500, cbwaters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Any other BMW owners out there? I don't even own a car. But, if I did, a BMW would be a cool choice. Congrats on a great new toy. cheers, frank > -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson From jeff Thu Dec 16 04:11:01 2004 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-Date: Wed Dec 15 20:11:01 2004 Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Envelope-to: [email protected] Delivery-date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 20:11:01 -0800 Received: from exprod5mx115.postini.com ([64.18.0.87] helo=psmtp.com) by toko.jab.org with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1Cemyj-0000xs-00 for <[email protected]>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 20:11:01 -0800 Received: from source ([207.173.176.202]) by exprod5mx115.postini.com ([64.18.4.10]) with SMTP; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 23:13:44 EST Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=list.valvesoftware.com) by list.valvesoftware.com with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1CemYk-0001Ng-00; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 19:44:10 -0800 Received: from [67.18.55.130] (helo=dc1.datacities.com) by list.valvesoftware.com with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1CemVf-0001JK-00 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 19:40:59 -0800 Received: from dialup-66-216-132-039.dejazzd.com ([66.216.132.39] helo=myworld) by dc1.datacities.com with smtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cemha-0006cK-KC for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 22:53:18 -0500 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> From: "r00t 3:16" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - dc1.datacities.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - list.valvesoftware.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - cqc-gaming.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: content-transfer-encoding: 7bit content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Subject: [hlcoders] Bullet tracers Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Post: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Id: Discussion of Half-Life Programming <hlcoders.list.valvesoftware.com> List-Unsubscribe: <http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Archive: <http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/private/hlcoders/> X-Original-Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 22:55:56 -0500 Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 22:55:56 -0500 X-pstn-levels: (S:62.18038/99.90000 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:94.8624 C:98.9754 ) X-pstn-settings: 1 (0.1500:0.1500) gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [294/10] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on toko.jab.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-3.6 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS, FROM_HAS_MIXED_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.64 I have tracers somewhat working, However when I fire there is about a 3 second delay before I start to see the bullet traces. Then they move super slow like a matrix effect. FireBulletsInfo_t Fire; Fire.m_vecSrc = pPlayer->Weapon_ShootPosition( ); Fire.m_vecDirShooting = pPlayer->GetAutoaimVector( AUTOAIM_2DEGREES ); Fire.m_iDamage = 8; Fire.m_iAmmoType = m_iPrimaryAmmoType; Fire.m_pAttacker = (CBaseEntity *) pPlayer; Fire.m_nFlags = true; Fire.m_iTracerFreq = 1; Fire.m_iShots = 1; Fire.m_flDistance = MAX_TRACE_LENGTH; pPlayer->FireBullets( Fire ); I have the above in weapon_mp5.cpp Anyone want to shed some light as to why they look like http://www.totalretribution.com/r00t316/badtracer.jpg I fired from the wall on the left then ran to where I am standing to take the screenshot. That is how slow it is lol.. r00t 3:16 CQC Gaming www.cqc-gaming.com _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders From jeff Thu Dec 16 04:11:32 2004 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-Date: Wed Dec 15 20:11:32 2004 Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Envelope-to: [email protected] Delivery-date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 20:11:32 -0800 Received: from exprod5mx31.postini.com ([64.18.0.186] helo=psmtp.com) by toko.jab.org with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1CemzE-0000y3-00 for <[email protected]>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 20:11:32 -0800 Received: from source ([194.109.24.21]) by exprod5mx31.postini.com ([64.18.4.10]) with SMTP; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 20:14:14 PST Received: from bag.python.org (bag.python.org [194.109.207.14]) by smtp-vbr1.xs4all.nl (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id iBG4DlJS034832; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 05:13:47 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Received: from bag.python.org (bag [127.0.0.1]) by bag.python.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 487551E400B; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 05:13:42 +0100 (CET) X-Original-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from bag.python.org (bag [127.0.0.1]) by bag.python.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B95681E400A for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 05:13:39 +0100 (CET) Received: from bag (HELO bag.python.org) (127.0.0.1) by bag.python.org with SMTP; 16 Dec 2004 05:13:39 +0100 Received: from alianet.alia.org.au (alianet.alia.org.au [203.13.160.191]) by bag.python.org (Postfix) with ESMTP for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 05:13:39 +0100 (CET) Received: from flat (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by scanned (Postfix on ALIAnet) with ESMTP id E5A25E4F83 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 15:13:31 +1100 (EST) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by flat.alia.org.au (MailMonitor for SMTP v1.2.2 ) ; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 15:13:31 +1100 (EST) Received: from alia.org.au (mailpc.alia.org.au [203.13.160.194]) by alianet.alia.org.au (Postfix on ALIAnet) with ESMTP id 86D9FE4F82 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 15:13:31 +1100 (EST) Received: from ALIA-MTA by alia.org.au with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 15:14:02 +1100 Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.2 Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 15:13:38 +1100 From: "Adam Steer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Ivan Trundle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Mailman-Users] How we made Mailman fit: One way to customise things.... X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mailman mailing list management users <mailman-users.python.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Archive: <http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users> List-Post: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-pstn-levels: (S:99.90000/99.90000 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:94.8624 C:98.9754 ) X-pstn-settings: 1 (0.1500:0.1500) gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [294/10] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on toko.jab.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.64 Hi all I've finally written up the most significant parts of a Mailman makeover we've done here at ALIA. If you're interested, head over to: http://alia.org.au/alianet/e-lists/mailman.interface.html ..and have a dig around. In a very small nutshell, the pages there describe why we modified Mailman, and how we modified htmlformat.py and HTMLformatter.py to do most of the things we wanted. All is explained at the link above, and we've thrown in a couple of sample files where relevant. Still more to come, but nothing quite so major. Some words on installing non-RPM mailman on SuSE are also on the way - those, and some bash scripts we wrote to handle multiple-list-maintenance jobs, may come soon. A disclaimer or two, to go with it all: We arrived where we are via a couple of test servers, some intuitive guess work, some plain dumb luck and many cups of coffee. I'm no python programmer, so don't expect brilliance [it works... and we left it at that]. If any Python gurus can think of better ways to do what we did, please let us know! It may well be we've just mis-read the manual and made a lot of work for ourselves :-) Comments welcome, and apologies to a couple of interested people who have been waiting months for me to get this done. Cheers Adam. ------------------------------------------------------ Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ From jeff Thu Dec 16 04:11:34 2004 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-Date: Wed Dec 15 20:11:34 2004 Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Envelope-to: [email protected] Delivery-date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 20:11:34 -0800 Received: from exprod5mx62.postini.com ([64.18.0.175] helo=psmtp.com) by toko.jab.org with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1CemzG-0000yC-00 for <[email protected]>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 20:11:34 -0800 Received: from source ([200.49.102.63]) by exprod5mx62.postini.com ([64.18.4.10]) with SMTP; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 20:14:15 PST Received: (qmail 8722 invoked by alias); 16 Dec 2004 03:18:35 -0000 Mailing-List: contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]; run by ezmlm X-Grippo: yes List-Post: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Help: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Unsubscribe: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> From: "Horoscopo de Internet Grippo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Delivered-To: mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: moderator for [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (qmail 28063 invoked by uid 501); 16 Dec 2004 03:01:02 -0000 Date: 16 Dec 2004 03:01:02 -0000 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: [sagitariodiario] 16-12-2004 X-pstn-levels: (S: 0.19092/96.17735 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:94.8624 C:98.9754 ) X-pstn-settings: 1 (0.1500:0.1500) gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> forward (good recip) [294/10] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on toko.jab.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.5 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_06, HTML_MESSAGE,MIME_HTML_NO_CHARSET,MIME_HTML_ONLY autolearn=no version=2.64 <x-html> <html> <body> <b>Predicciones para SAGITARIO</b><BR> <EM>Fecha: 16-12-2004</em><br> <br> /----------------------------------------(publicidad)-----\<br> <br> Participa en la loteria para vivir y trabajar en los EE.UU.<br> <br> Click <a href="http://www.usafis.org/faq/index.asp?af=grp_cpa_ar_text_45_45_sp&language=spanish"; target=_blank>aqui</a><br> <br> \----------------------------------------(publicidad)-----/<br> <br> <b>Predicciones de hoy para SAGITARIO:</b><br> <br> <table width=468 bgcolor=#FFFF66><tr><td><big><br><blockquote> El camino a recorrer muchas veces parece ser en cuesta hacia arriba. Ese es el momento en el cual debe juntar todas las fuerzas posibles para lograr pasar este trecho. </blockquote></big></td></tr></table> <br> <hr size=1> <a href="http://horoscopo.grippo.com"; target=_blank>http://horoscopo.grippo.com</a> - Predicciones diarias<br> enviado a: [email protected]<br> <img src="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]"; border=0 alt="sagitariodiario 16-12-2004"> </html> </x-html> From jeff Thu Dec 16 04:12:35 2004 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-Date: Wed Dec 15 20:12:35 2004 Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Envelope-to: [email protected] Delivery-date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 20:12:35 -0800 Received: from exprod5mx116.postini.com ([64.18.0.88] helo=psmtp.com) by toko.jab.org with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1Cen0F-0000yL-00 for <[email protected]>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 20:12:35 -0800 Received: from source ([216.92.131.4]) by exprod5mx116.postini.com ([64.18.4.10]) with SMTP; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 20:15:17 PST Received: (qmail 2218 invoked by uid 1010); 16 Dec 2004 03:48:52 -0000 Mailing-List: contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> list-unsubscribe: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> list-post: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Delivered-To: mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (qmail 97193 invoked by uid 1010); 16 Dec 2004 03:48:02 -0000 Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: "Sandy Keathley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 21:47:20 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Subject: Re: [PHP] Can't install PHP 5.02 with Apache2 X-pstn-levels: (S:99.90000/99.90000 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:94.5022 C:98.9754 ) X-pstn-settings: 1 (0.1500:0.1500) gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [294/10] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on toko.jab.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.64 > On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 11:21:42 -0500, Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > and am getting a compile error: > "apxs was not found." > > There is > no file: /usr/sbin/apxs > > Mine is /usr/sbin/apxs2 Some versions of Redhat install a package of Apache2 without either apxs or apxs2, presumably to keep you from installing unsupported versions of (for example) PHP. Sandy Keathley -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php From jeff Thu Dec 16 04:12:42 2004 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-Date: Wed Dec 15 20:12:42 2004 Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Envelope-to: [email protected] Delivery-date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 20:12:42 -0800 Received: from exprod5mx95.postini.com ([64.18.0.83] helo=psmtp.com) by toko.jab.org with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1Cen0M-0000yU-00 for <[email protected]>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 20:12:42 -0800 Received: from source ([64.244.27.141]) by exprod5mx95.postini.com ([64.18.4.10]) with SMTP; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 20:15:24 PST Received: from moya.trilug.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by moya.trilug.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A45DA0039; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 23:15:14 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from smtpauth08.mail.atl.earthlink.net (smtpauth08.mail.atl.earthlink.net [209.86.89.68]) by moya.trilug.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81C2FA002F for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 23:15:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from [24.148.205.20] (helo=bowler) by smtpauth08.mail.atl.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Cen2l-0000AI-SX for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 23:15:11 -0500 From: "Scott Lundgren" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Triangle Linux Users Group discussion list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [TriLUG] need url monitoring + pretty graphs Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 23:21:11 -0500 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Importance: Normal X-ELNK-Trace: 62810a69a703bfdf416dc04816f3191c5081e00da63e3dc36ad50fd59ca59bd9a8438e0f32a48e08350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 24.148.205.20 X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Triangle Linux Users Group discussion list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Id: Triangle Linux Users Group discussion list <trilug.trilug.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://www.trilug.org/mailman/listinfo/trilug>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Archive: <http://www.trilug.org/pipermail/trilug> List-Post: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <http://www.trilug.org/mailman/listinfo/trilug>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-pstn-levels: (S:99.90000/99.90000 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:94.8624 C:98.9754 ) X-pstn-settings: 1 (0.1500:0.1500) gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [294/10] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on toko.jab.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.64 Ryan, I'm currently monitoring 6 webservers, a database server, and a solaris server using Nagios, http://nagios.org/ with APAN, http://apan.sourceforge.net/. APAN is set up to draw pretty graphs for 10 minute/24 hour/1 week/1 month/1 year periods for things like CPU usage, disk, RAM, HTTP response time, etc. One other boss friendly thing I like about Nagios is the trend reporting. - SL -- TriLUG mailing list : http://www.trilug.org/mailman/listinfo/trilug TriLUG Organizational FAQ : http://trilug.org/faq/ TriLUG Member Services FAQ : http://members.trilug.org/services_faq/ TriLUG PGP Keyring : http://trilug.org/~chrish/trilug.asc From jeff Thu Dec 16 04:12:56 2004 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-Date: Wed Dec 15 20:12:56 2004 Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Envelope-to: [email protected] Delivery-date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 20:12:56 -0800 Received: from exprod5mx124.postini.com ([64.18.0.38] helo=psmtp.com) by toko.jab.org with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1Cen0a-0000yd-00 for <[email protected]>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 20:12:56 -0800 Received: from source ([212.85.147.176]) by exprod5mx124.postini.com ([64.18.4.10]) with SMTP; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 23:15:38 EST Received: from smtp.mandrax.org (smtp.mandrax.org [212.85.147.169]) by smtp.mandrake.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1B564F400; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 05:00:13 +0100 (CET) Received: by smtp.mandrax.org (Postfix, from userid 500) id B880756A09; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 05:15:37 +0100 (CET) Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from vizzini.dnsalias.com (ny-lancastercadent4g7-9a-147.buf.adelphia.net [24.48.75.147]) by smtp1.mandrax.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AABEE173468 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 05:15:02 +0100 (CET) Received: by vizzini.dnsalias.com (Postfix, from userid 501) id 28C21688E6; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 19:32:55 -0500 (EST) From: Greg Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 19:32:54 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Loop: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Sequence: 1191 Precedence: list List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Post: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Owner: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [newbie] Virus laden e-mail Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1103170530-1122-5054" X-pstn-levels: (S:99.90000/99.90000 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:94.8624 C:98.9754 ) X-pstn-settings: 1 (0.1500:0.0150) gt3 GT2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [294/10] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on toko.jab.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.64 This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1103170530-1122-5054 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is anybody else on this list getting bombarded with virus laden e-mail from a particular ip address in Australia? Whoever it is is sending to the address that I use for the Mandrake lists, so I am thinking it may be one of our newbie windows users. If you use windows and are in Australia, please check your box for viruses. -- /g ------------=_1103170530-1122-5054 Content-Type: text/plain; name="message.footer" Content-Disposition: inline; filename="message.footer" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit ____________________________________________________ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com ____________________________________________________ ------------=_1103170530-1122-5054-- From jeff Thu Dec 16 04:17:56 2004 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-Date: Wed Dec 15 20:17:56 2004 Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Envelope-to: [email protected] Delivery-date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 20:17:56 -0800 Received: from exprod5mx117.postini.com ([64.18.0.89] helo=psmtp.com) by toko.jab.org with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1Cen5Q-0000z1-00 for <[email protected]>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 20:17:56 -0800 Received: from source ([146.246.248.81]) by exprod5mx117.postini.com ([64.18.4.10]) with SMTP; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 22:20:39 CST Received: from openib.ca.sandia.gov (openib.ca.sandia.gov [146.246.248.81]) by openib.ca.sandia.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id E785D2283D6; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 20:33:53 -0800 (PST) Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from umhlanga.STRATNET.NET (umhlanga.stratnet.net [12.162.17.40]) by openib.ca.sandia.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3789A22834D for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 20:33:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from exch-1.topspincom.com ([12.162.17.3]) by umhlanga.STRATNET.NET with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Wed, 15 Dec 2004 20:18:10 -0800 Received: from eddore ([10.10.253.169]) by exch-1.topspincom.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Wed, 15 Dec 2004 20:18:10 -0800 Received: from roland by eddore with local (Exim 4.34) id 1Cen5d-00041j-SK; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 20:18:10 -0800 To: Hal Rosenstock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-Message-Flag: Warning: May contain useful information References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> From: Roland Dreier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 20:18:09 -0800 In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (Hal Rosenstock's message of "15 Dec 2004 21:21:56 -0500") Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1006 (Gnus v5.10.6) XEmacs/21.4 (Security Through Obscurity, linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: <locally generated> X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [openib-general] IPoIB oops on path record completion Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.1 (built Tue, 17 Aug 2004 11:06:07 +0200) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on eddore) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Dec 2004 04:18:10.0237 (UTC) FILETIME=[406D16D0:01C4E326] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: OpenIB General Mailing List <openib-general.openib.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://openib.org/mailman/listinfo/openib-general>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Archive: <http://openib.org/pipermail/openib-general> List-Post: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <http://openib.org/mailman/listinfo/openib-general>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-pstn-levels: (S:99.90000/99.90000 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:94.5022 C:98.9754 ) X-pstn-settings: 1 (0.1500:0.1500) gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [294/10] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on toko.jab.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.64 Hal> Can you shorten your timeout down to 1 msec and see what happens ? OK, that let me reproduce the oops, and I pushed a fix out (skqueue was used unitialized). - R. _______________________________________________ openib-general mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://openib.org/mailman/listinfo/openib-general To unsubscribe, please visit http://openib.org/mailman/listinfo/openib-general From jeff Thu Dec 16 04:18:28 2004 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-Date: Wed Dec 15 20:18:28 2004 Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Envelope-to: [email protected] Delivery-date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 20:18:28 -0800 Received: from exprod5mx117.postini.com ([64.18.0.89] helo=psmtp.com) by toko.jab.org with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1Cen5w-000118-00 for <[email protected]>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 20:18:28 -0800 Received: from source ([64.118.64.245]) by exprod5mx117.postini.com ([64.18.4.10]) with SMTP; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 21:21:09 MST Received: from LOCALHOST by LOCALHOST with ESMTP id D4B7629F4374A5418611A29778FB75B2 Wed, 15 Dec 2004 23:22:39 -0500 Subject: Re: Canada Goes to Hell From: Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain Precedence: bulk Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 21:20:33 -0700 References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-pstn-levels: (S:99.90000/99.90000 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:94.5022 C:98.9754 ) X-pstn-settings: 1 (0.1500:0.1500) gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> forward (good recip) [294/10] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on toko.jab.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.64 Really? I had no idea. But Pierre Berton wrote in the 60s and 70s didn't he? So I am not sure how current even part 2 would be. On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 00:12:51 -0500, Michael Dinowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm waiting for part 2 so I can see if it changed any. I've seen a lot from > canada when it comes to Jews and Jewish issues that has not made me feel > it's a place I'd want to be living, but I'll wait till I see an actual study > (and not riots) > > > Hey Michael, I am not saying this was right, but it was in 1948... > > > > Dana > > > > > > On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 23:59:21 -0500, Michael Dinowitz > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Well, based on this article, it's definitly oh canada. Nice to gays, but > >> if > >> your a Jew forget about it. > >> http://www.cjnews.com/viewarticle.asp?id=5095 > >> > >> > >> > Tangorre, Michael wrote: > >> >> GO CANADA! > >> > > >> > No, no. "Oh! Canada". 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Yet, it is different from XMLEncoder/Decoder provided by JDK, which is tedious/unreadable in XML. CookXml/CookSwing/CookSwt intend to provide powerful yet concise representation of GUI (or whatever objects) in XML. I believe in writing a program that does well what it is supposed to do. I am not interested in a XUL that can be run anywhere; after all, Swing and SWT are portable themselves. If you are switching from Swing to SWT, or vice versa, tough luck with any XML toolkits. So, in the mean time, pick the one that provides the best use the GUI :) More @ http://cookxml.sourceforge.net Has anyone tried out CookSwing? 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Saludos - Victor Normando - ====================================== Patrocinador del Foro: Reproducciones 460 Flexocrom S.A. - LA MEJOR OPCI�N EN FLEXOGRAF�A - Tel.(+34) 934 22 74 11 http://www.flexocrom.com ================================== AVISO: Puede ANULAR su suscripci�n en: http://flexografia.net/mailman/options/foros ================================ From jeff Thu Dec 16 04:19:39 2004 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-Date: Wed Dec 15 20:19:39 2004 Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Envelope-to: [email protected] Delivery-date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 20:19:39 -0800 Received: from exprod5mx118.postini.com ([64.18.0.32] helo=psmtp.com) by toko.jab.org with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1Cen75-00012J-00 for <[email protected]>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 20:19:39 -0800 Received: from source ([66.35.250.206]) (using TLSv1) by exprod5mx118.postini.com ([64.18.4.10]) with SMTP; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 20:22:22 PST Received: from projects.sourceforge.net (sc8-sf-list1-b.sourceforge.net [10.3.1.7]) by sc8-sf-uberspam1.sourceforge.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BE951D04BF; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 20:22:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from sc8-sf-mx1-b.sourceforge.net ([10.3.1.11] helo=sc8-sf-mx1.sourceforge.net) by sc8-sf-list1.sourceforge.net with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1Cen8l-0002yl-8V for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 20:21:23 -0800 Received: from ylpvm01-ext.prodigy.net ([207.115.57.32] helo=ylpvm01.prodigy.net) by sc8-sf-mx1.sourceforge.net with esmtp (Exim 4.41) id 1Cen8i-0006bU-EK for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 20:21:23 -0800 Received: from ascent.site (adsl-69-107-61-95.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net [69.107.61.95]) by ylpvm01.prodigy.net (8.12.10 outbound/8.12.10) with ESMTP id iBG4L5CL018516; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 23:21:05 -0500 From: David Brownell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Greg KH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> User-Agent: KMail/1.7.1 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; boundary="Boundary-00=_30QwBYVNBfV57hc" Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-Spam-Score: -4.9 (----) Subject: [linux-usb-devel] Re: [patch 2.6.11] HCDs and per-device state (16/15) Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9-sf.net Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linux-usb-devel>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Id: <linux-usb-devel.lists.sourceforge.net> List-Post: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linux-usb-devel>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Archive: <http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum=linux-usb-devel> X-Original-Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 20:21:11 -0800 Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 20:21:11 -0800 X-pstn-levels: (S:99.90000/99.90000 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:94.8624 C:98.9754 ) X-pstn-settings: 1 (0.1500:0.0000) gt3 gt2 GT1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [294/10] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on toko.jab.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.64 --Boundary-00=_30QwBYVNBfV57hc Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline > Nice work. I've applied all 15 of these patches, but now > drivers/usb/host/sl811-hcd.c and drivers/usb/gadget/dummy_hcd.c have > build errors. Here's the sl811-hcd patch; compile-tested only, that system doesn't have a 2.6.11 port yet. ;) - Dave --Boundary-00=_30QwBYVNBfV57hc Content-Type: text/x-diff; charset="us-ascii"; name="p1215-sl811.patch" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="p1215-sl811.patch" SL811 changes getting rid of the "hcd_dev" support, using usb_host_endpoint to hold the QH. This also eliminates the "sl811h_req" data type. Compile-tested only! Signed-off-by: David Brownell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- 1.2/drivers/usb/host/sl811-hcd.c 2004-12-09 12:40:35 -08:00 +++ edited/drivers/usb/host/sl811-hcd.c 2004-12-15 19:56:06 -08:00 @@ -67,7 +67,7 @@ MODULE_DESCRIPTION("SL811HS USB Host Controller Driver"); MODULE_LICENSE("GPL"); -#define DRIVER_VERSION "06 Dec 2004" +#define DRIVER_VERSION "15 Dec 2004" #ifndef DEBUG @@ -314,7 +314,6 @@ static struct sl811h_ep *start(struct sl811 *sl811, u8 bank) { struct sl811h_ep *ep; - struct sl811h_req *req; struct urb *urb; int fclock; u8 control; @@ -348,13 +347,12 @@ struct sl811h_ep, schedule); } - if (unlikely(list_empty(&ep->queue))) { + if (unlikely(list_empty(&ep->hep->urb_list))) { DBG("empty %p queue?\n", ep); return NULL; } - req = container_of(ep->queue.next, struct sl811h_req, queue); - urb = req->urb; + urb = container_of(ep->hep->urb_list.next, struct urb, urb_list); control = ep->defctrl; /* if this frame doesn't have enough time left to transfer this @@ -432,17 +430,12 @@ static void finish_request( struct sl811 *sl811, struct sl811h_ep *ep, - struct sl811h_req *req, + struct urb *urb, struct pt_regs *regs, int status ) __releases(sl811->lock) __acquires(sl811->lock) { unsigned i; - struct urb *urb = req->urb; - - list_del(&req->queue); - kfree(req); - urb->hcpriv = NULL; if (usb_pipecontrol(urb->pipe)) ep->nextpid = USB_PID_SETUP; @@ -457,7 +450,7 @@ spin_lock(&sl811->lock); /* leave active endpoints in the schedule */ - if (!list_empty(&ep->queue)) + if (!list_empty(&ep->hep->urb_list)) return; /* async deschedule? */ @@ -496,7 +489,6 @@ done(struct sl811 *sl811, struct sl811h_ep *ep, u8 bank, struct pt_regs *regs) { u8 status; - struct sl811h_req *req; struct urb *urb; int urbstat = -EINPROGRESS; @@ -505,8 +497,7 @@ status = sl811_read(sl811, bank + SL11H_PKTSTATREG); - req = container_of(ep->queue.next, struct sl811h_req, queue); - urb = req->urb; + urb = container_of(ep->hep->urb_list.next, struct urb, urb_list); /* we can safely ignore NAKs */ if (status & SL11H_STATMASK_NAK) { @@ -577,7 +568,7 @@ urb->status = urbstat; spin_unlock(&urb->lock); - req = NULL; + urb = NULL; ep->nextpid = USB_PID_ACK; } break; @@ -618,9 +609,8 @@ bank, status, ep, urbstat); } - if ((urbstat != -EINPROGRESS || urb->status != -EINPROGRESS) - && req) - finish_request(sl811, ep, req, regs, urbstat); + if (urb && (urbstat != -EINPROGRESS || urb->status != -EINPROGRESS)) + finish_request(sl811, ep, urb, regs, urbstat); } static inline u8 checkdone(struct sl811 *sl811) @@ -643,7 +633,7 @@ ctl = sl811_read(sl811, SL811_EP_B(SL11H_HOSTCTLREG)); if (ctl & SL11H_HCTLMASK_ARM) sl811_write(sl811, SL811_EP_B(SL11H_HOSTCTLREG), 0); - DBG("%s DONE_B: ctrl %02x sts %02x\n", ctl, + DBG("%s DONE_B: ctrl %02x sts %02x\n", (ctl & SL11H_HCTLMASK_ARM) ? "timeout" : "lost", ctl, sl811_read(sl811, SL811_EP_B(SL11H_PKTSTATREG))); @@ -732,8 +722,8 @@ if (sl811->active_a) { sl811_write(sl811, SL811_EP_A(SL11H_HOSTCTLREG), 0); finish_request(sl811, sl811->active_a, - container_of(sl811->active_a->queue.next, - struct sl811h_req, queue), + container_of(sl811->active_a->hep->urb_list.next, + struct urb, urb_list), NULL, -ESHUTDOWN); sl811->active_a = NULL; } @@ -741,8 +731,8 @@ if (sl811->active_b) { sl811_write(sl811, SL811_EP_B(SL11H_HOSTCTLREG), 0); finish_request(sl811, sl811->active_b, - container_of(sl811->active_b->queue.next, - struct sl811h_req, queue), + container_of(sl811->active_b->hep->urb_list.next, + struct urb, urb_list), NULL, -ESHUTDOWN); sl811->active_b = NULL; } @@ -816,19 +806,18 @@ /*-------------------------------------------------------------------------*/ static int sl811h_urb_enqueue( - struct usb_hcd *hcd, - struct urb *urb, - int mem_flags + struct usb_hcd *hcd, + struct usb_host_endpoint *hep, + struct urb *urb, + int mem_flags ) { struct sl811 *sl811 = hcd_to_sl811(hcd); struct usb_device *udev = urb->dev; - struct hcd_dev *hdev = (struct hcd_dev *) udev->hcpriv; unsigned int pipe = urb->pipe; int is_out = !usb_pipein(pipe); int type = usb_pipetype(pipe); int epnum = usb_pipeendpoint(pipe); struct sl811h_ep *ep = NULL; - struct sl811h_req *req; unsigned long flags; int i; int retval = 0; @@ -838,16 +827,8 @@ return -ENOSPC; #endif - /* avoid all allocations within spinlocks: request or endpoint */ - urb->hcpriv = req = kmalloc(sizeof *req, mem_flags); - if (!req) - return -ENOMEM; - req->urb = urb; - - i = epnum << 1; - if (i && is_out) - i |= 1; - if (!hdev->ep[i]) + /* avoid all allocations within spinlocks */ + if (!hep->hcpriv) ep = kcalloc(1, sizeof *ep, mem_flags); spin_lock_irqsave(&sl811->lock, flags); @@ -859,15 +840,14 @@ goto fail; } - if (hdev->ep[i]) { + if (hep->hcpriv) { kfree(ep); - ep = hdev->ep[i]; + ep = hep->hcpriv; } else if (!ep) { retval = -ENOMEM; goto fail; } else { - INIT_LIST_HEAD(&ep->queue); INIT_LIST_HEAD(&ep->schedule); ep->udev = usb_get_dev(udev); ep->epnum = epnum; @@ -911,7 +891,7 @@ break; } - hdev->ep[i] = ep; + hep->hcpriv = ep; } /* maybe put endpoint into schedule */ @@ -966,47 +946,38 @@ spin_lock(&urb->lock); if (urb->status != -EINPROGRESS) { spin_unlock(&urb->lock); - finish_request(sl811, ep, req, NULL, 0); - req = NULL; + finish_request(sl811, ep, urb, NULL, 0); retval = 0; goto fail; } - list_add_tail(&req->queue, &ep->queue); + urb->hcpriv = hep; spin_unlock(&urb->lock); start_transfer(sl811); sl811_write(sl811, SL11H_IRQ_ENABLE, sl811->irq_enable); fail: spin_unlock_irqrestore(&sl811->lock, flags); - if (retval) - kfree(req); return retval; } static int sl811h_urb_dequeue(struct usb_hcd *hcd, struct urb *urb) { struct sl811 *sl811 = hcd_to_sl811(hcd); - struct usb_device *udev = urb->dev; - struct hcd_dev *hdev = (struct hcd_dev *) udev->hcpriv; - unsigned int pipe = urb->pipe; - int is_out = !usb_pipein(pipe); + struct usb_host_endpoint *hep = urb->hcpriv; unsigned long flags; - unsigned i; struct sl811h_ep *ep; - struct sl811h_req *req = urb->hcpriv; int retval = 0; - i = usb_pipeendpoint(pipe) << 1; - if (i && is_out) - i |= 1; + if (!hep) + return -EINVAL; spin_lock_irqsave(&sl811->lock, flags); - ep = hdev->ep[i]; + ep = hep->hcpriv; if (ep) { /* finish right away if this urb can't be active ... * note that some drivers wrongly expect delays */ - if (ep->queue.next != &req->queue) { + if (ep->hep->urb_list.next != &urb->urb_list) { /* not front of queue? never active */ /* for active transfers, we expect an IRQ */ @@ -1022,7 +993,7 @@ 0); sl811->active_a = NULL; } else - req = NULL; + urb = NULL; #ifdef USE_B } else if (sl811->active_b == ep) { if (time_before_eq(sl811->jiffies_a, jiffies)) { @@ -1036,14 +1007,14 @@ 0); sl811->active_b = NULL; } else - req = NULL; + urb = NULL; #endif } else { /* front of queue for inactive endpoint */ } - if (req) - finish_request(sl811, ep, req, NULL, 0); + if (urb) + finish_request(sl811, ep, urb, NULL, 0); else VDBG("dequeue, urb %p active %s; wait4irq\n", urb, (sl811->active_a == ep) ? "A" : "B"); @@ -1054,33 +1025,22 @@ } static void -sl811h_endpoint_disable(struct usb_hcd *hcd, struct hcd_dev *hdev, int epnum) +sl811h_endpoint_disable(struct usb_hcd *hcd, struct usb_host_endpoint *hep) { - struct sl811 *sl811 = hcd_to_sl811(hcd); - struct sl811h_ep *ep; - unsigned long flags; - int i; - - i = (epnum & 0xf) << 1; - if (epnum && !(epnum & USB_DIR_IN)) - i |= 1; - - spin_lock_irqsave(&sl811->lock, flags); - ep = hdev->ep[i]; - hdev->ep[i] = NULL; - spin_unlock_irqrestore(&sl811->lock, flags); + struct sl811h_ep *ep = hep->hcpriv; - if (ep) { - /* assume we'd just wait for the irq */ - if (!list_empty(&ep->queue)) - msleep(3); - if (!list_empty(&ep->queue)) - WARN("ep %p not empty?\n", ep); + if (!ep) + return; - usb_put_dev(ep->udev); - kfree(ep); - } - return; + /* assume we'd just wait for the irq */ + if (!list_empty(&hep->urb_list)) + msleep(3); + if (!list_empty(&hep->urb_list)) + WARN("ep %p not empty?\n", ep); + + usb_put_dev(ep->udev); + kfree(ep); + hep->hcpriv = 0; } static int @@ -1481,7 +1441,7 @@ sl811_read(sl811, SL811_EP_B(SL11H_PKTSTATREG))); seq_printf(s, "\n"); list_for_each_entry (ep, &sl811->async, schedule) { - struct sl811h_req *req; + struct urb *urb; seq_printf(s, "%s%sqh%p, ep%d%s, maxpacket %d" " nak %d err %d\n", @@ -1497,10 +1457,10 @@ }; s;}), ep->maxpacket, ep->nak_count, ep->error_count); - list_for_each_entry (req, &ep->queue, queue) { - seq_printf(s, " urb%p, %d/%d\n", req->urb, - req->urb->actual_length, - req->urb->transfer_buffer_length); + list_for_each_entry (urb, &ep->hep->urb_list, urb_list) { + seq_printf(s, " urb%p, %d/%d\n", urb, + urb->actual_length, + urb->transfer_buffer_length); } } if (!list_empty(&sl811->async)) @@ -1743,11 +1703,6 @@ sl811->hcd.self.op = &usb_hcd_operations; sl811->hcd.self.hcpriv = sl811; - // NOTE: 2.6.11 starts to change the hcd glue layer some more, - // eventually letting us eliminate struct sl811h_req and a - // lot of the boilerplate code here - - INIT_LIST_HEAD(&sl811->hcd.dev_list); sl811->hcd.self.release = &usb_hcd_release; sl811->hcd.description = sl811h_hc_driver.description; --- 1.1/drivers/usb/host/sl811.h 2004-12-06 10:45:04 -08:00 +++ edited/drivers/usb/host/sl811.h 2004-12-15 20:03:54 -08:00 @@ -162,7 +162,7 @@ } struct sl811h_ep { - struct list_head queue; + struct usb_host_endpoint *hep; struct usb_device *udev; u8 defctrl; @@ -182,14 +182,6 @@ /* async schedule */ struct list_head schedule; -}; - -struct sl811h_req { - /* FIXME usbcore should maintain endpoints' urb queues - * directly in 'struct usb_host_endpoint' - */ - struct urb *urb; - struct list_head queue; }; /*-------------------------------------------------------------------------*/ --Boundary-00=_30QwBYVNBfV57hc-- ------------------------------------------------------- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. 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In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-pstn-levels: (S:99.90000/99.90000 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:94.5022 C:98.9754 ) X-pstn-settings: 1 (0.1500:0.1500) gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [294/10] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on toko.jab.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.64 At 10:17 PM 12/15/2004, you wrote: >Hi Larry, > >Thanks for your reply. >About the messages you referred me to: > >/////////////////////////////////////////////////////// > >http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2004-11/msg00962.html > >His situation is similar in terms of symptoms, but my >test program (that throws an exception and tries to >catch it) doesn't have any callbacks. True but the way I read that conversation was that DWARF2 EH worked if callbacks weren't used or would work with callbacks so long as -fexceptions was used. Maybe I read that incorrectly though. >/////////////////////////////////////////////////////// > >http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2004-11/msg01017.html > >This message seems to be talking about DWARF2 debug >output. Or does -gdwarf-2 have any effect on EH? As you can see, I didn't do *any* weeding of results. ;-) >/////////////////////////////////////////////////////// > >My goal is to build gcc/g++ that use Dwarf2 EH. A >compiler with working EH will be able to run my test >program without aborting. So far I have built several >versions of gcc, all of which have the abort() EH, >which is equivalent to having _no_ EH in practical >terms. > >Maybe Danny Smith has some thoughts about this, since >he has apparently been at least partially successful >in getting DWARF2 EH to work on cygwin. Yes, I expect he'll chime in. >Another question for anyone at all: any ideas why sjlj >is so crap-tastically slow on cygwin? I can't believe >that sjlj EH has nearly such a huge hit on other >targets. If sjlj it is the sole perpetrator of the >slowdown, then it is doing a very very effective job >of slowing things down. You might want to check out the gcc list too. There are apparently issues with sjlj that transcend Cygwin and Windows targets. Perhaps crap-tastically poor performance is one of those things as well. ;-) -- Larry Hall http://www.rfk.com RFK Partners, Inc. 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X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 0.9.13 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -4.9 (----) Subject: [Linux-usb-users] Cypress Chipset Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9-sf.net Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linux-usb-users>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Id: <linux-usb-users.lists.sourceforge.net> List-Post: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linux-usb-users>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Archive: <http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum=linux-usb-users> X-Original-Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 23:22:04 -0500 Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 23:22:04 -0500 X-pstn-levels: (S:99.90000/99.90000 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:94.8624 C:98.9754 ) X-pstn-settings: 1 (0.1500:0.0000) gt3 gt2 GT1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [294/10] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on toko.jab.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.64 Greetings, I'm trying to put together an external USB hard drive for backup. To that end I have a brand new Seagate HD and a KingWin KH-350U-S 3.5" USB enclosure. FWIW, I'm running Mandrake linux with a 2.6.8.1-12mdk kernel. When I plug in the USB cable two messages are written to /var/log/syslog: Dec 15 21:14:13 osage kernel: usb 4-1: new high speed USB device using address 2 Dec 15 21:14:13 osage kernel: scsi0 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices With my USB memory stick these two lines are followed by Vendor and other info, but that doesn't happen with the USB enclosure. Loaded modules include: ehci-hcd, scsi_mod, uhci-hcd, usbcore, and usb-storage The enclosure/HD combo work on my kids' Win98 machine, which identifies the USB chipset manufacturer as Cypress. As a guess, Cypress is a non-supported chipset. Alternatively, I may have the wrong modules loaded. Any suggestions on how to learn more about what's going on and maybe even get it to work??? Thanks. 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Start reading now. http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/ _______________________________________________ [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, use the last form field at: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linux-usb-users From jeff Thu Dec 16 04:20:46 2004 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-Date: Wed Dec 15 20:20:46 2004 Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Envelope-to: [email protected] Delivery-date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 20:20:46 -0800 Received: from exprod5mx31.postini.com ([64.18.0.186] helo=psmtp.com) by toko.jab.org with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1Cen8A-00013L-00 for <[email protected]>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 20:20:46 -0800 Received: from source ([209.237.227.199]) by exprod5mx31.postini.com ([64.18.4.10]) with SMTP; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 20:23:29 PST Received: (qmail 94604 invoked by uid 500); 16 Dec 2004 04:23:27 -0000 Mailing-List: contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> list-unsubscribe: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> list-post: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (qmail 94590 invoked by uid 99); 16 Dec 2004 04:23:27 -0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests= X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received: from exchange.sun.com (HELO exchange.sun.com) (192.18.33.10) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.28) with SMTP; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 20:23:00 -0800 Received: (qmail 20474 invoked from network); 15 Dec 2004 21:16:18 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO nagoya) (127.0.0.1) by nagoya.betaversion.org with SMTP; 15 Dec 2004 21:16:18 -0000 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 13:16:18 -0800 (PST) From: "Henry Zongaro (JIRA)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [jira] Updated: (XALANJ-1260) XSL Include files ignore encoding set in root XSL document Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked X-pstn-levels: (S:99.90000/99.90000 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:100.0000 C:98.9754 ) X-pstn-settings: 1 (0.1500:0.0750) GT3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [294/10] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on toko.jab.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.64 [ http://nagoya.apache.org/jira/browse/XALANJ-1260?page=history ] Henry Zongaro updated XALANJ-1260: ---------------------------------- Priority: Major > XSL Include files ignore encoding set in root XSL document > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > Key: XALANJ-1260 > URL: http://nagoya.apache.org/jira/browse/XALANJ-1260 > Project: XalanJ2 > Type: Bug > Components: JAXP > Versions: 2.0.0 > Environment: Operating System: OS/400 > Platform: Other > Reporter: Jeff Lynch > Assignee: Xalan Developers Mailing List > > I am running XSL / XML transform in Java while processing Japanese UTF-8 > characters in XSL stylesheets. The "root" XSL document that controls > Xsl:include xsl files has these characters as well as the include .xsl files > When transformed, the output results in the UTF-8 Japanese characters showing > up as Japanese for the "root" xsl page characters, but the include file > characters are not being encoded in UTF-8, they are transformed in to ASCII > garbage. > I have included the following XML declarations in the include files > <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?> > <xsl:stylesheet version="1.0" > xmlns:xsl="http://www.w3.org/1999/XSL/Transform";> > <xsl:output/> > Here is the declaration for a "root" xsl page: > <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?> > <xsl:stylesheet version="1.0" > xmlns:xsl="http://www.w3.org/1999/XSL/Transform";> > <xsl:include href="header.xsl" /> > <xsl:include href="lnav.xsl" /> > <xsl:include href="footer.xsl" /> > <xsl:output method="html" version="1.0" indent="yes" encoding="UTF-8" media- > type="text/html"/> > This is a high importance item to get resolved, any help will be greatly > appreciated. -- This message is automatically generated by JIRA. - If you think it was sent incorrectly contact one of the administrators: http://nagoya.apache.org/jira/secure/Administrators.jspa - If you want more information on JIRA, or have a bug to report see: http://www.atlassian.com/software/jira --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From jeff Thu Dec 16 04:20:51 2004 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-Date: Wed Dec 15 20:20:51 2004 Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Envelope-to: [email protected] Delivery-date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 20:20:51 -0800 Received: from exprod5mx12.postini.com ([64.18.0.152] helo=psmtp.com) by toko.jab.org with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1Cen8F-00013Y-00 for <[email protected]>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 20:20:51 -0800 Received: from source ([207.173.200.128]) (using TLSv1) by exprod5mx12.postini.com ([64.18.4.10]) with SMTP; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 20:23:33 PST Received: from postgresql.org (svr1.postgresql.org [200.46.204.71]) by hosting.commandprompt.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id iBG4NT3i015358 for <[email protected]>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 20:23:33 -0800 X-Original-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.144]) by svr1.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B959A3B5777 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 04:21:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from svr1.postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (av.hub.org [200.46.204.144]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 66311-08 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 04:21:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sss.pgh.pa.us (sss.pgh.pa.us [66.207.139.130]) by svr1.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 036843B327D for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 04:21:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sss2.sss.pgh.pa.us ([EMAIL PROTECTED] [127.0.0.1]) by sss.pgh.pa.us (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id iBG4LDeS019512; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 23:21:13 -0500 (EST) To: Palle Girgensohn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [HACKERS] getting 'order by' working with unicode locale? ICU? In-reply-to: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Comments: In-reply-to Palle Girgensohn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> message dated "Thu, 16 Dec 2004 03:21:05 +0100" Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 23:21:13 -0500 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> From: Tom Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at hub.org X-Mailing-List: pgsql-hackers Precedence: bulk Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-pstn-levels: (S:99.90000/99.90000 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:94.8624 C:98.9754 ) X-pstn-settings: 1 (0.1500:0.1500) gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [294/10] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on toko.jab.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.64 Palle Girgensohn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I'm using Postgresql on FreeBSD, and would like to get "order by" to work > with unicode. What makes you think it doesn't? Use the right locale and you're set. regards, tom lane ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- TIP 6: Have you searched our list archives? http://archives.postgresql.org From jeff Thu Dec 16 04:20:53 2004 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-Date: Wed Dec 15 20:20:53 2004 Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Envelope-to: [email protected] Delivery-date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 20:20:53 -0800 Received: from exprod5mx32.postini.com ([64.18.0.187] helo=psmtp.com) by toko.jab.org with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1Cen8G-00013j-00 for <[email protected]>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 20:20:52 -0800 Received: from source ([209.237.227.199]) by exprod5mx32.postini.com ([64.18.4.10]) with SMTP; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 20:23:35 PST Received: (qmail 95063 invoked by uid 500); 16 Dec 2004 04:23:34 -0000 Mailing-List: contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> list-unsubscribe: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> list-post: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (qmail 95044 invoked by uid 99); 16 Dec 2004 04:23:34 -0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests= X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received: from exchange.sun.com (HELO exchange.sun.com) (192.18.33.10) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.28) with SMTP; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 20:23:03 -0800 Received: (qmail 20481 invoked from network); 15 Dec 2004 21:16:21 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO nagoya) (127.0.0.1) by nagoya.betaversion.org with SMTP; 15 Dec 2004 21:16:21 -0000 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 13:16:21 -0800 (PST) From: "Henry Zongaro (JIRA)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [jira] Updated: (XALANJ-1790) XPath ignores namespace declarations except on root element Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked X-pstn-levels: (S:99.90000/99.90000 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:100.0000 C:98.9754 ) X-pstn-settings: 1 (0.1500:0.0750) GT3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [294/10] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on toko.jab.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.64 [ http://nagoya.apache.org/jira/browse/XALANJ-1790?page=history ] Henry Zongaro updated XALANJ-1790: ---------------------------------- Priority: Major > XPath ignores namespace declarations except on root element > ----------------------------------------------------------- > > Key: XALANJ-1790 > URL: http://nagoya.apache.org/jira/browse/XALANJ-1790 > Project: XalanJ2 > Type: Bug > Components: XPath > Versions: 2.0.0 > Environment: Operating System: Windows NT/2K > Platform: PC > Reporter: Guy Rixon > Assignee: Xalan Developers Mailing List > > By my reading of the XML standards, this document should be valid: > <?xml version="1.0"?> > <foo:Foo xmlns:foo="http://foo.com";> > <bar:Bar xmlns:bar="http://bar.com"/> > </foo:Foo> > and I should be able to search for //bar:Bar using the XPath implementation > in > Xalan. However, if I make that search using the ApplyXPath sample, then I get > a > javax.xml.transformer.Exception saying "Prefix must resolve to a namespace: > bar". > If I change the XML to this: > <?xml version="1.0"?> > <foo:Foo xmlns:foo="http://foo.com"; > xmlns:bar="http://bar.com";> > <bar:Bar xmlns:bar="http://bar.com"/> > </foo:Foo> > then the search works. In the original XML above, I can search for > //foo:Foo, > but if I wrap the whole structure in a <baz>...</baz> then the search for > fooFoo > fails. > This is v2.5.2, BTW. 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= align=3Dmiddle>arkemme</FONT></A> </TD></TR> <TR><TD class=3DThmBgStandard> <BR> <DIV> <P>Hi everyone! I was just recently = diagnosed after years of problems as having a tumor; Dr. also = called it a adenoma, in my pituitary gland. Within the past 6 = months my problems had gotten worse. I was having extremely bad = headaches, I'm cold all the time, I have been gaining weight, I=92m = extremely tired, and have lost all interest in sex. No one could = tell me what was wrong; they kept blaming it on stress. Well when = I was in to see my OB/GYN I mentioned to him that I was still lactating = and hadn't been nursing for 6 months or longer. Long = story short after some blood work and an MRI he said I had a = tumor in my pituitary and wanted to start me on Bromocriptine = right away. <o:p></o:p></P> <P> <o:p></o:p></P> = <P>The confusing part for me is he said that this type of tumor would = not cause me to be cold, gain weight or some of the other symptoms I've = had. And yet other people have told me they heard it could. = I'm just curious if anyone here had the same problems. The weight = gain is really bothering me, I'm 25 and have 3 children. Our = youngest will be a year old in a few weeks. With the two older = boys I never had a problem losing the weight. I weigh more now = than I did when I had him almost a year ago. And just to let you = know, they did check my thyroid and said it was normal. = <o:p></o:p></P> <P> <o:p></o:p></P> <P>I'm also curious = if anyone has or is using Bromocriptine and what they thought about = it.<o:p></o:p></P> <P> <o:p></o:p></P> <P>Any advice = would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance.<o:p></o:p></P> = <P> <o:p></o:p></P> <P>Alie<o:p></o:p></P> = <P><o:p> </o:p></P></DIV></TD></TR> </TABLE> </TD> </TR> </TABLE> <BR> <A href=3D"http://groups.msn.com/Browse?CatId=3D101";>View other = groups in this category.</A> <BR> <BR> <!--WSSTRIPPABLEBEGIN--> <a = href=3D"http://g.msn.com/0AD00012/659127.1??PID=3D2409620&UIT=3DM&= ;TargetID=3D1032735&AN=3D16915&PG=3DWBCSHW" = target=3D"_blank"><img = src=3D"http://altfarm.mediaplex.com/ad/bn/4820-24596-2060-5?mpt=3D[CACHEB= USTER]" width=3D"728" height=3D"90" alt=3D"Memberworks" border=3D"0" = /></a> <!--WSSTRIPPABLEEND--> <!--WSSTRIPPABLEBEGIN--><br><STYLE><!-- ADMSmLnk{font-family:verdana,system;color:#336699;text-decoration:none;} ADMSmLnk:hover{color:#ff6600;text-decoration:underline;} --></STYLE> <TABLE cellSpacing=3D0 cellPadding=3D0 width=3D500 border=3D0> <TBODY> <TR> <TD><FONT face=3Dverdana color=3D#333366 size=3D1><B>Also on = MSN:</B></FONT><BR><A class=3DADMSmLnk = href=3D"http://g.msn.com/2GRENUS/2_8085_01";><FONT face=3Dverdana = color=3D#336699 size=3D1>Start Chatting</FONT></A> <FONT = face=3Dverdana color=3D#333366 size=3D1>|</FONT> <A = class=3DADMSmLnk href=3D"http://g.msn.com/2GRENUS/2_8085_02";><FONT = face=3Dverdana color=3D#336699 size=3D1>Listen to Music</FONT></A><FONT = face=3Dverdana color=3D#336699 size=3D1></FONT> <FONT = face=3Dverdana color=3D#333366 size=3D1>|</FONT> <A = class=3DADMSmLnk href=3D"http://g.msn.com/2GRENUS/2_8085_03";><FONT = face=3Dverdana color=3D#336699 size=3D1>House & Home</FONT></A><FONT = face=3Dverdana color=3D#336699 size=3D1></FONT> <FONT = face=3Dverdana color=3D#333366 size=3D1>|</FONT> <A = class=3DADMSmLnk href=3D"http://g.msn.com/2GRENUS/2_8085_04";><FONT = face=3Dverdana color=3D#336699 size=3D1>Try Online = Dating</FONT></A><FONT face=3Dverdana color=3D#336699 = size=3D1></FONT> <FONT face=3Dverdana color=3D#333366 = size=3D1>|</FONT> <A class=3DADMSmLnk = href=3D"http://g.msn.com/2GRENUS/2_8085_05";><FONT face=3Dverdana = color=3D#336699 size=3D1>Daily Horoscopes</FONT></A><FONT face=3Dverdana = color=3D#336699 size=3D1></FONT>=20 <TD></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><!--WSSTRIPPABLEEND--></BLOCKQUOTE> <!--WSSTRIPPABLEBEGIN--> <TABLE border=3D0 cellpadding=3D0 cellspacing=3D0 width=3D"100%"> <TR class=3DThmBgDivider><TD width=3D"100%" height=3D"1""><img = border=3D"0" src=3D"http://sc.groups.msn.com/img/R9c/c.gif"; = width=3D"100%" height=3D"1"></TD></TR> <TR> <TD width=3D"100%" class=3DThmBgAlternate> <BLOCKQUOTE> <FONT face=3D"Arial, Helvetica, Sans Serif" class=3DThmFgStandard = size=3D"1"> <BR> To stop getting this e-mail, or change how often it = arrives, go to your <A = href=3D"http://groups.msn.com/PituitaryTumor/_emailsettings.msnw";><FONT = class=3DThmFgMiscText>E-mail Settings</FONT></A>. <BR><BR> Need help? 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I will be leaving this Saturday, Dec 18th, to fly up to Portland. = I am scheduled for surgery at OHSU Thursday Dec. 23rd. 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Start reading now. http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/ _______________________________________________ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel From jeff Thu Dec 16 04:27:04 2004 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-Date: Wed Dec 15 20:27:04 2004 Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Envelope-to: [email protected] Delivery-date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 20:27:04 -0800 Received: from exprod5mx127.postini.com ([64.18.0.41] helo=psmtp.com) by toko.jab.org with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1CenEG-00016q-00 for <[email protected]>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 20:27:04 -0800 Received: from source ([65.242.93.132]) by exprod5mx127.postini.com ([64.18.4.10]) with SMTP; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 20:29:46 PST Received: from nwn.definitive.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by nwn.definitive.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id iBFN5XL09316; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 18:05:33 -0500 Received: from mailrelay1.lanl.gov (mailrelay1.lanl.gov [128.165.4.101]) by nwn.definitive.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id iBFN2OL09292 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 18:02:24 -0500 Received: from ccs-mail.lanl.gov (ccs-mail.lanl.gov [128.165.4.126]) by mailrelay1.lanl.gov (8.12.11/8.12.11/(ccn-5)) with ESMTP id iBG4Lsv3025482; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 21:21:54 -0700 Received: from linux.site (maxroach.lanl.gov [128.165.250.187]) by ccs-mail.lanl.gov (8.12.10/8.12.10/(ccn-5)) with ESMTP id iBG4LrtQ022446; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 21:21:54 -0700 From: "Ronald G. Minnich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-X-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: "'LinuxBIOS'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: booting slow In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-PMX-Version: 4.7.0.111621 Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Post: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <http://www.clustermatic.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxbios>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Id: Discussions regarding the LinuxBIOS project <linuxbios.clustermatic.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://www.clustermatic.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxbios>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Archive: <http://www.clustermatic.org/pipermail/linuxbios/> X-Original-Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 21:21:53 -0700 (MST) Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 21:21:53 -0700 (MST) X-pstn-levels: (S:99.90000/99.90000 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:94.8624 C:98.9754 ) X-pstn-settings: 1 (0.1500:0.1500) gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [294/10] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on toko.jab.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.64 On Thu, 16 Dec 2004, Gin wrote: > The getpir util generates a routing table by looking at the memory > config of my "developing" machine. How's it related to my target > machine? It almost certainly is wrong, unless all the wires on the machines are absolutely identical. I am willing to guess your irq tabls for the target are wrong. > Any document I can reference? This link mentioned on irq_tables.c > http://www.microsoft.com/hwdev/busbios/PCIIRQ.HTM doesn't work. oh great. I will try to find a copy here. ron _______________________________________________ Linuxbios mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.clustermatic.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxbios From jeff Thu Dec 16 04:27:12 2004 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-Date: Wed Dec 15 20:27:12 2004 Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Envelope-to: [email protected] Delivery-date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 20:27:12 -0800 Received: from exprod5mx128.postini.com ([64.18.0.42] helo=psmtp.com) by toko.jab.org with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1CenEO-00016z-00 for <[email protected]>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 20:27:12 -0800 Received: from source ([200.140.247.68]) by exprod5mx128.postini.com ([64.18.4.10]) with SMTP; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 23:29:49 EST Received: from bazar2.conectiva.com.br (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by bazar2.conectiva.com.br (Don't Know, Inc.) with ESMTP id C406113D9C; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 02:29:46 -0200 (BRST) Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from smtp-242.ig.com.br (smtp-242.ig.com.br [200.226.132.242]) 530E513B2E for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 01:20:46 -0200 (BRST) Received: (qmail 14728 invoked from network); 16 Dec 2004 03:20:44 -0000 Received: from user.151.197.4.201.dial-ip.telemar.net.br (HELO [201.4.197.151]) ([201.4.197.151]) (envelope-sender <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) by email-242.ig.com.br (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 16 Dec 2004 03:20:43 -0000 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 00:18:01 +0000 From: Nets <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (X11/20041103) X-Accept-Language: pt-br, pt MIME-Version: 1.0 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.0.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-iGspam-global: Unsure, spamicity=0.567667 - pe=5.68e-01 - pf=0.567667 - pg=0.567667 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 02:29:42 -0200 Subject: (linux-br)erro ao compilar o firefox-1.0 X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Lista Brasileira sobre Linux <linux-br.bazar2.conectiva.com.br> List-Unsubscribe: <http://bazar2.conectiva.com.br/mailman/listinfo/linux-br>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Archive: <http://bazar2.conectiva.com.br/pipermail/linux-br> List-Post: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <http://bazar2.conectiva.com.br/mailman/listinfo/linux-br>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-pstn-levels: (S:17.97704/99.88206 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:94.8624 C:98.9754 ) X-pstn-settings: 1 (0.1500:0.1500) gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [294/10] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on toko.jab.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.1 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00,DATE_IN_PAST_03_06, RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB autolearn=no version=2.64 Srs. Uso o Slackware 10.0 e estou tentado com pilar o firefox 1.0 por�m exito, gostaria de ajuda o pacote que estou tentado compilar � o firefox-1.0-source.tar.bz2 e o erro � o seguinte eadcontext.o xpcthrower.o xpcwrappedjs.o xpcvariant.o xpcwrappedjsclass.o xpcwrappednative.o xpcwrappednativeinfo.o xpcwrappednativejsops.o xpcwrappednativeproto.o xpcwrappednativescope.o -Wl,--whole-archive ../../../../dist/lib/libjsloader_s.a -Wl,--no-whole-archive -L../../../../dist/bin -lxpcom -L../../../../dist/bin -L/usr/src/mozilla/dist/lib -lplds4 -lplc4 -lnspr4 -lpthread -ldl -L../../../../dist/bin -lmozjs -Wl,-Bsymbolic -ldl -lm collect2: ld returned 1 exit status gmake[4]: *** [libxpconnect.so] Error 1 gmake[4]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/mozilla/js/src/xpconnect/src' gmake[3]: *** [libs] Error 2 gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/mozilla/js/src/xpconnect' gmake[2]: *** [tier_9] Error 2 gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/mozilla' gmake[1]: *** [default] Error 2 gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/mozilla' gmake: *** [build] Error 2 desde j� agrade�o Remilson --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Esta lista � patrocinada pela Conectiva S.A. 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Harvey/ Ga M-17 Stargazer #294 _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats From jeff Thu Dec 16 04:27:20 2004 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-Date: Wed Dec 15 20:27:20 2004 Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Envelope-to: [email protected] Delivery-date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 20:27:20 -0800 Received: from exprod5mx118.postini.com ([64.18.0.32] helo=psmtp.com) by toko.jab.org with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1CenEW-00017U-00 for <[email protected]>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 20:27:20 -0800 Received: from source ([194.109.24.34]) by exprod5mx118.postini.com ([64.18.4.10]) with SMTP; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 20:30:01 PST Received: from bag.python.org (bag.python.org [194.109.207.14]) by smtp-vbr14.xs4all.nl (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id iBG4U1Ds095990 for <[email protected]>; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 05:30:01 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Received: from bag.python.org (bag [127.0.0.1]) by bag.python.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDD731E4011 for <[email protected]>; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 05:30:00 +0100 (CET) X-Original-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from bag.python.org (bag [127.0.0.1]) by bag.python.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF4B51E4013 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 05:29:39 +0100 (CET) Received: from bag (HELO bag.python.org) (127.0.0.1) by bag.python.org with SMTP; 16 Dec 2004 05:29:39 +0100 Received: from cognitcorp.com (cognitcorp01.inc.sunysb.edu [129.49.198.31]) by bag.python.org (Postfix) with ESMTP for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 05:29:39 +0100 (CET) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (fw1.cognitcorp.com [192.168.250.1]) by cognitcorp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDB72248353 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 23:29:55 -0500 (EST) From: Adam DePrince <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 (1.4.6-2) Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 23:29:37 -0500 Subject: Re: Why are tuples immutable? X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language <python-list.python.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Archive: <http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list> List-Post: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0294805723==" Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-pstn-levels: (S:83.04774/99.90000 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:94.8624 C:98.9754 ) X-pstn-settings: 1 (0.1500:0.1500) gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [294/10] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on toko.jab.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.7 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNSAFE,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.64 --===============0294805723== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=-snlMH7FlLRMtxqiW6YGp" --=-snlMH7FlLRMtxqiW6YGp Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Mon, 2004-12-13 at 17:23, jfj wrote: > Yo. > > Why can't we __setitem__ for tuples? > The way I see it is that if we enable __setitem__ for tuples there > doesn't seem to be any performance penalty if the users don't use it > (aka, python performance independent of tuple mutability). > > On the other hand, right now we have to use a list if we want to > __setitem__ on a sequence. If we could use tuples in the cases where > we want to modify items but not modify the length of the sequence, > programs could be considerably faster. Yes? > > Enlighten me. > > G. Lets forget discussions of performance of tuples vs. lists for a moment, performance issues associated with allowing for changing keys in dictionaries and consider the larger question. Q: Why do we have immutable data types? A: Abstraction, logical consistency and annoying theoretical computer science. Let us consider the Set type. Ignore for now the fact that it is basically a dictionary. We can all agree that a Set is an unordered collection of distinct objects. Similar to their theoretical counterparts we can add elements, remove elements and perform a variety of set arithmetic operations on sets. There is no theoretical set operation called "transmute" - that is, you can't mutate an element to something else. It isn't part of the model. You can remove an element and add another, but that isn't the same. This is probably a good thing, because if you allow mutation of elements withing a set, look at what can happen: Set A has A, B and C. Set B has C, D and E. The intersection of the two sets is a Set containing C. The cardinality of the sets (len) is the same. Now, lets "mutate" the B in Set A to C. First of all, A ceases to be a set, for we have the elements A C and C. Do we keep this non-set like set? Or do we remove the element? The first is out of the question; Set carries with it a definition that is borrowed from mathematics. Keeping the extra C around makes our object a collection, not a set, and should be called such. I, for one, don't want to use a purposefully misleading language. Perhaps we resolve our issue by defining the mutation of B to C to result in set A containing the elements A and C. This would still be a set, but there is another problem. We didn't *do* anything to Set A, but it changed in a fundamental manner. Because of a change in one place, the mutation of B, the cardinality of our set has suddenly changed without saying "remove B from Set A." That is a Bad Programming practice. Touching something in one place shouldn't break something else. The solution to this problem is to recognize that certain mathematical data-structures basically require the use of parameters that cannot be serendipitously changed. But why kowtow to mathematics at the expense of cool hack-ability? When you set your thoughts down to code, your writing serves two purposes. 1) Instruct the machine on your intent. 2) Argue to the reader the correctness of #1. Around here, we call #2 "self documenting code." Now, I've seen a lot of discussion of this on python-list. Frequently silly pieces of code such as (forgive me): flatten = sum list of strings = flatten( list of lists of strings ) are written and argued for in the name of self documenting code. Personally, I think that is the "This line adds 1 to X and assigns it to Y" variety of self documenting code. What is really meant by self documenting code is code that argues in a semi-rigorous sense for its own correctness. Programming is fundamentally an engineering discipline. It differs from the more physical engineering disciplines - the parts are all abstract mathematical entities, but their reliability as such is offset by the sheer complexity of the constructed machine. Much as a mechanical engineer might discuss a tie rod end or pressure vessel in the language of calculus and statics, a computer programmer really should wrap their discussion in the language of discrete mathematics and computational linguistics. A tuple has a specific mathematical meaning that admittedly differs somewhat depending on the context. Same for a Set, List and so forth. Cast your problem in terms of mathematics and keep your language's nomenclature and behavior similar to existing mathematical constructs. Doing this will afford you the opportunity to stand upon the shoulders of giants as you go about your work. And to properly stand upon those shoulders, we must match the theoetical models used. That means we need more, not fewer, inmutable counterparts to most of our datatypes. Adam DePrince --=-snlMH7FlLRMtxqiW6YGp Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 TRANSITIONAL//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; CHARSET=UTF-8"> <META NAME="GENERATOR" CONTENT="GtkHTML/3.0.10"> </HEAD> <BODY> On Mon, 2004-12-13 at 17:23, jfj wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE> <PRE><FONT COLOR="#737373"><I>Yo. Why can't we __setitem__ for tuples? The way I see it is that if we enable __setitem__ for tuples there doesn't seem to be any performance penalty if the users don't use it (aka, python performance independent of tuple mutability). On the other hand, right now we have to use a list if we want to __setitem__ on a sequence. If we could use tuples in the cases where we want to modify items but not modify the length of the sequence, programs could be considerably faster. Yes? Enlighten me. G.</I></FONT></PRE> </BLOCKQUOTE> <BR> Lets forget discussions of performance of tuples vs. lists for a moment, performance issues associated with allowing for changing keys in dictionaries and consider the larger question.<BR> <BR> Q: Why do we have immutable data types?<BR> <BR> A: Abstraction, logical consistency and annoying theoretical computer science.<BR> <BR> Let us consider the Set type. Ignore for now the fact that it is basically a dictionary. We can all agree that a Set is an unordered collection of distinct objects. Similar to their theoretical counterparts we can add elements, remove elements and perform a variety of set arithmetic operations on sets. There is no theoretical set operation called "transmute" - that is, you can't mutate an element to something else. It isn't part of the model. You can remove an element and add another, but that isn't the same. This is probably a good thing, because if you allow mutation of elements withing a set, look at what can happen:<BR> <BR> Set A has A, B and C.<BR> Set B has C, D and E.<BR> <BR> The intersection of the two sets is a Set containing C. The cardinality of the sets (len) is the same.<BR> <BR> Now, lets "mutate" the B in Set A to C. First of all, A ceases to be a set, for we have the elements A C and C. Do we keep this non-set like set? Or do we remove the element? The first is out of the question; Set carries with it a definition that is borrowed from mathematics. Keeping the extra C around makes our object a collection, not a set, and should be called such. I, for one, don't want to use a purposefully misleading language. <BR> <BR> Perhaps we resolve our issue by defining the mutation of B to C to result in set A containing the elements A and C. This would still be a set, but there is another problem. We didn't *do* anything to Set A, but it changed in a fundamental manner. Because of a change in one place, the mutation of B, the cardinality of our set has suddenly changed without saying "remove B from Set A." That is a Bad Programming practice. Touching something in one place shouldn't break something else. <BR> <BR> The solution to this problem is to recognize that certain mathematical data-structures basically require the use of parameters that cannot be serendipitously changed. But why kowtow to mathematics at the expense of cool hack-ability? <BR> <BR> When you set your thoughts down to code, your writing serves two purposes. <BR> <BR> 1) Instruct the machine on your intent.<BR> 2) Argue to the reader the correctness of #1.<BR> <BR> Around here, we call #2 "self documenting code." Now, I've seen a lot of discussion of this on python-list. Frequently silly pieces of code such as (forgive me):<BR> <BR> flatten = sum<BR> list of strings = flatten( list of lists of strings )<BR> <BR> are written and argued for in the name of self documenting code. Personally, I think that is the "This line adds 1 to X and assigns it to Y" variety of self documenting code. <BR> <BR> What is really meant by self documenting code is code that argues in a semi-rigorous sense for its own correctness. Programming is fundamentally an engineering discipline. It differs from the more physical engineering disciplines - the parts are all abstract mathematical entities, but their reliability as such is offset by the sheer complexity of the constructed machine. Much as a mechanical engineer might discuss a tie rod end or pressure vessel in the language of calculus and statics, a computer programmer really should wrap their discussion in the language of discrete mathematics and computational linguistics. <BR> <BR> A tuple has a specific mathematical meaning that admittedly differs somewhat depending on the context. Same for a Set, List and so forth. Cast your problem in terms of mathematics and keep your language's nomenclature and behavior similar to existing mathematical constructs. Doing this will afford you the opportunity to stand upon the shoulders of giants as you go about your work. And to properly stand upon those shoulders, we must match the theoetical models used. That means we need more, not fewer, inmutable counterparts to most of our datatypes. <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <PRE><TABLE CELLSPACING="0" CELLPADDING="0" WIDTH="100%"> <TR> <TD> Adam DePrince <PRE></PRE> </TD> </TR> </TABLE> </PRE> </BODY> </HTML> --=-snlMH7FlLRMtxqiW6YGp-- --===============0294805723== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list --===============0294805723==-- From jeff Thu Dec 16 04:27:26 2004 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-Date: Wed Dec 15 20:27:26 2004 Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Envelope-to: [email protected] Delivery-date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 20:27:26 -0800 Received: from exprod5mx123.postini.com ([64.18.0.37] helo=psmtp.com) by toko.jab.org with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1CenEc-00017q-00 for <[email protected]>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 20:27:26 -0800 Received: from source ([206.53.239.180]) by exprod5mx123.postini.com ([64.18.4.10]) with SMTP; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 22:30:08 CST Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 621B172CF14; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 23:30:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 05697-99; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 23:30:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 015C772CF27; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 23:27:20 -0500 (EST) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list cybercrime-alerts); Wed, 15 Dec 2004 23:24:23 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 60CCD72C89C for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 23:24:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 04319-47 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 23:24:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from linux4.domainnameservers.net (Linux4.domainnameservers.net [67.18.62.122]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 86BDB72CF51 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 23:22:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from pool-129-44-234-4.syr.east.verizon.net ([129.44.234.4] helo=sqwrell) by linux4.domainnameservers.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cen9F-0003oc-6I; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 23:21:53 -0500 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-Mailer: Courier 3.50.00.09.1098 (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com) (P) Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 23:21:54 -0500 From: "cybercrime-alerts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Lowe's Hardware Hacker Gets Nine Years Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-PopBeforeSMTPSenders: [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - linux4.domainnameservers.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freelists.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - theMezz.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at freelists.org X-archive-position: 534 X-Approved-By: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-original-sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Precedence: normal Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-list: cybercrime-alerts X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at freelists.org X-pstn-levels: (S:18.03956/99.88260 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:92.8780 C:99.7951 ) X-pstn-settings: 1 (0.1500:0.1500) gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [294/10] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on toko.jab.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.64 Lowe's Hardware Hacker Gets Nine Years Hacker Who Tapped Into Computer System of Lowe's Hardware Stores Gets Nine= Years The Associated Press Dec. 15, 2004 - One of three Michigan men who hacked into the national= computer system of Lowe's hardware stores and tried to steal customers'= credit card information was sentenced Wednesday to nine years in federal= prison. 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Archives and Subscription Updates: http://cybercrime.theMezz.com Guestbook: http://guestbook.theMezz.com PGP Key: http://pgp.theMezz.com From jeff Thu Dec 16 04:27:27 2004 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-Date: Wed Dec 15 20:27:27 2004 Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Envelope-to: [email protected] Delivery-date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 20:27:27 -0800 Received: from exprod5mx31.postini.com ([64.18.0.186] helo=psmtp.com) by toko.jab.org with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1CenEd-000182-00 for <[email protected]>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 20:27:27 -0800 Received: from source ([66.35.250.220]) (using TLSv1) by exprod5mx31.postini.com ([64.18.4.10]) with SMTP; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 20:29:51 PST Received: from sc8-sf-list1-b.sourceforge.net ([10.3.1.7] helo=projects.sourceforge.net) by sc8-sf-spam2.sourceforge.net with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CehXx-0006UN-Vf; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 14:23:01 -0800 Received: from sc8-sf-mx2-b.sourceforge.net ([10.3.1.12] helo=sc8-sf-mx2.sourceforge.net) by sc8-sf-list1.sourceforge.net with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1CehX2-0008Vu-4k for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 14:22:04 -0800 Received: from ylpvm15-ext.prodigy.net ([207.115.57.46] helo=ylpvm15.prodigy.net) by sc8-sf-mx2.sourceforge.net with esmtp (Exim 4.41) id 1CehX0-0008Bj-Ew for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 14:22:04 -0800 Received: from ascent.site (adsl-69-107-61-95.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net [69.107.61.95]) by ylpvm15.prodigy.net (8.12.10 outbound/8.12.10) with ESMTP id iBFMLokx008883 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 17:21:50 -0500 From: David Brownell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [linux-usb-devel] [PATCH as436] Increase Genesys delay to 110us User-Agent: KMail/1.7.1 References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-Spam-Score: -4.9 (----) Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9-sf.net Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linux-usb-devel>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Id: <linux-usb-devel.lists.sourceforge.net> List-Post: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linux-usb-devel>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Archive: <http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum=linux-usb-devel> X-Original-Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 14:21:41 -0800 Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 14:21:41 -0800 X-pstn-levels: (S:99.90000/99.90000 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:94.8624 C:98.9754 ) X-pstn-settings: 1 (0.1500:0.0000) gt3 gt2 GT1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [294/10] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on toko.jab.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=2.64 On Wednesday 15 December 2004 1:36 pm, Alan Stern wrote: > Matt: > > This is a trivial change, but it helps at least one person. It may help > others too -- but so far Jan is the only person to report back any test > results. Increasing the delay from 100 to 110us won't hurt much, at any > rate. Actually I'd have suspected the rule is "needs one microframe delay", but that's just a guess. There should be no need for a delay at all! (Where a microframe == 125 usec, but statistically 100 or 110 usec will "usually" cover things...) - Dave > Ultimately we will need to find some other way to specify which devices > need the time delay and what the delay should be, since we know that one > size doesn't fit all and some non-Genesys devices also need the delay. > For now this will have to do. > ------------------------------------------------------- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/ _______________________________________________ [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, use the last form field at: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linux-usb-devel From jeff Thu Dec 16 04:27:20 2004 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-Date: Wed Dec 15 20:27:20 2004 Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Envelope-to: [email protected] Delivery-date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 20:27:20 -0800 Received: from exprod5mx1.postini.com ([64.18.0.141] helo=psmtp.com) by toko.jab.org with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1CenEW-00017W-00 for <[email protected]>; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 20:27:20 -0800 Received: from source ([132.181.2.27]) by exprod5mx1.postini.com ([64.18.4.10]) with SMTP; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 20:30:01 PST Received: from PROCESS-DAEMON.it.canterbury.ac.nz by it.canterbury.ac.nz (PMDF V6.2-X27 #30791) id <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (original mail from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) for [email protected]; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 17:29:54 +1300 (NEW ZEALAND DAYLIGHT TIME) Received: from CONVERSION-A1.it.canterbury.ac.nz by it.canterbury.ac.nz (PMDF V6.2-X27 #30791) id <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> for [EMAIL PROTECTED] (ORCPT [EMAIL PROTECTED]); Thu, 16 Dec 2004 17:29:49 +1300 (NEW ZEALAND DAYLIGHT TIME) Received: from cosc.canterbury.ac.nz (linux3.cosc.canterbury.ac.nz [132.181.10.44]) by it.canterbury.ac.nz (PMDF V6.2-X27 #30791) with ESMTP id <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> for [EMAIL PROTECTED] (ORCPT [EMAIL PROTECTED]); Thu, 16 Dec 2004 17:29:42 +1300 (NEW ZEALAND DAYLIGHT TIME) Received: from cosc4110.cosc.canterbury.ac.nz (cosc4110.cosc.canterbury.ac.nz [132.181.14.102]) by cosc.canterbury.ac.nz (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id iBG4TgRq002063 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Thu, 16 Dec 2004 17:29:42 +1300 Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 17:29:41 +1300 From: Michael JasonSmith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: OT: Emergency Phone Number [Was: Xtra jetstream new plans....] In-reply-to: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: linux users <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.2 (2.0.2-3) Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Comments: University of Canterbury Linux Users Group List-Subscribe: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-pstn-levels: (S:99.90000/99.90000 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:94.8624 C:98.9754 ) X-pstn-settings: 1 (0.1500:0.1500) gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [294/10] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.64 (2004-01-11) on toko.jab.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-3.9 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.64 On Thu, 2004-12-16 at 16:10 +1300, Andrew Errington wrote: > True, but I can call 111 on a cellphone, and there is no need for me to > register my cellphone number with any authority. Caller id may also be > blocked, barred, unavailable or broken for any particular call. The emergency phone number for GSM cellphones is 112. That way it can connect you to the emergency operator for the area :) Interestingly most new phones will allow you to dial 112 even if the keypad is locked… -- Michael JasonSmith http://www.ldots.org/
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