Don't forget Henry VIII, Mary I, Charles I, Oliver Cromwell, etc.

-Kevin


On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 12:42:57 -0600, Russel Madere
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Now that I have time, I will expound.
> 
> The schism initiated by Martin Luther's 95 theses and the extremism it
> caused is what I was pointing out.  This event was bad for the Roman
> Church in a number of ways.  Not because of the dissent, but because of
> the extremism it caused on both sides of the issue.  The papal response
> to Martin Luther was even worse.
> 
> The Roman Church became more xenophobic and conservative.  It probably
> delayed much needed reforms in the Roman Church by 550 years.  It also
> forced Martin Luther to work for his reforms outside of the Roman
> Church.
> 
> Additionally, it encouraged extremists to deepen the rift and caused
> reverberations still felt today, c.f. the klan, etc.
> 
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 12:09 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Insane
> 
> ah  I misunderstood your point then. I thought you were saying he was
> the first dissenter.
> 
> Dana
> 
> On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 11:55:34 -0600, Russel Madere
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > The Protestant Reformation led to the violent persecution of the
> > followers of the Roman Canon by other Christians.  Galileo and Joan of
> > Arc were both followers of the Roman Canon persecuted by fellow
> > followers.
> >
> > Russel Madere
> > Webmaster
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 10:57 AM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: Re: Insane
> >
> > uh... no it didn't. What about Galileo? Or Joan of Arc? Byzantine?
> >
> > On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 10:48:53 -0600, Russel Madere
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > It all started with Martin Luther.  :)
> > >
> > > Russel Madere
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> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 10:23 AM
> > > To: CF-Community
> > > Subject: Re: Insane
> > >
> > > My apologies if I was misconstrued. I was not attempting to attack
> > > rural Christians or making a universal statement of behavior about
> > > individuals. I was commenting on a _perception_ by non-Christians.
> > >
> > > A hegemony IS a broad brush though. If you yourself are considered
> > > apostate, then there is presumably a larger body which is weilding
> > > enough sociopolitical power to say so. There are always dissenting
> > > individuals and there is still a generalized whole.
> > >
> > > -Kevin
> > >
> > > On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 09:45:29 -0600, Russel Madere
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > Kevin,
> > > >
> > > > You are painting all with the same brush.  Rural Christians are
> not
> > > > monolithic.
> > > >
> > > > There are quite a few of us rural Christians that our evangelical
> > > > brethren consider apostates because we believe tradition as well
> as
> > > the
> > > > Bible guide our faith.  While we are Christian, we are
> marginalized
> > in
> > > > the "Bible Belt" because of our faith.
> > > >
> > > > Please be careful where you sling your vindictaves.
> > > >
> > > > Russel Madere
> > > > Webmaster
> > > > 504.832.9835
> > > > SunShine Pages by EATEL
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> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> 
> 

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