Interesting - Was googling around this topic and found this:

This still leaves open the question of German miscalculation. There
were weaknesses and strengths in Hitler's strategy, but no
misjudgements were more costly in the end than the German belief that
the Red Army was a primitive force, incapable of prolonged resistance,
or Hitler's insistence that the USA would take years to rearm and
could never field an effective army, or the failure to recognise that
bombing was a threat worth taking seriously before it was too late.

Military arrogance and political hubris put Germany on the path to a
war she could have won only if these expectations had proved true.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/war/wwtwo/how_the_allies_won_05.shtml

In other words the sine qua non of Allied victory was German
stupidity. And arrogance. Kinda makes ya humble. Not to mention
scared.

Dana

On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 15:34:46 -0600, Russel Madere
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Political pressure to open a major front to take the heat off of the
> Soviet Union.
> 
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gruss Gott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> Subject: Re: Ew....Bush inaugurated
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> > Russel wrote:
> > Actually, he discussed that in an American History class I took from
> > him.  He also conceded that the Normandy invasion just ended the war
> > sooner.  We probably would have won by invading through Italy and
> > Southern France, operations already either in motion or set in motion
> at
> > the time.
> >
> 
> I've always found that argument unconvincing.  After all, if that were
> the case, why didn't we do it?
> 
> I've heard the answers, and how Germany was going to implode anyway,
> etc., etc.  but all of that is beside the point which is that French
> citizens played a key role, maybe more than any other ally, in the
> Victory in Europe.
> 
> The point being, WWII was a team sport and we won as a team.  Saying
> anybody owes anybody else is ridiculous as it assumes that there was
> some type of benevolent action.  We were all protecting our own
> interests.
> 
> As far as I'm concerned, we don't owe anybody anything and they don't
> owe us.  Maybe we have a moral obligation to ourselves, but that's
> about it.
> 
> 

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