so it's ok, to use a stun dog collar on your kids... that's what you are saying?

Sorry.  Just kidding. I couldnt help it.  Really, I couldnt.  Please
dont stun me. . .  Crap, I did it again. Sorry, I couldnt help it. 
Really, I couldnt.

ZZZAAAPPP  Ouch . . . Honey, stop that. . .
DRE


On Tue, 01 Feb 2005 11:54:34 -0400, Jim Davis
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >so it's ok, to use a stun gun on your kids... that's what you are saying?
> >
> 
> It doesn't look like you read the message - he said pretty clearly that the 
> power of the "stun gun" was the determining factor.  Bringing the question 
> down to a simple black and white/yes or no issue as you have doesn't properly 
> represent his post.
> 
> Similarly you might say "It's okay to hit your kids".  However the statement 
> doesn't specify if you're talking about a spanking through a diaper or 
> pummeling them with an aluminum baseball bat.
> 
> He didn't say that using stun guns on your kids on your kids was okay or not: 
> just that there wasn't information to make a decision.
> 
> So, is using a "stun gun" okay?  In general I would say no.  The purpose of a 
> real stun gun (which it seems this was) is near complete incapacitation.  I 
> feel strongly that no punishment should incapcitate the child.  Restraining a 
> child to prevent injury is one thing, but knocking them flat and cold is 
> something else.
> 
> But is using an electric charge "okay"?  Why not if done with care?  Light 
> electric charges are completely uncomfortable yet completely harmless 
> (barring certain circumstances like pacemakers) - which is why they're so 
> commonly used in behavorial science.  There's both precendent and research to 
> back up this approach.
> 
> An off the shelf stun gun could be modified to deliver such a charge 
> (although if I were to attempt this personally I'd probably modify any of the 
> numerous shock-enabled dog collars designed to prevent straying or barking).
> 
> Jim Davis
> 
> 

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