OK, now that I have a moment. I really don't know where you get the idea that the profile is subjective. It's remarkably stable from organization to organization for something that is...here's another journal article.
http://jppr.psychiatryonline.org/cgi/content/full/8/2/129 I guess what bothers me about your position is that you don't mind starving Terri Shiavo in the face of little or no evidence that this was what she wanted, but you're very quick to speak up for Michael. Suppose he is in fact maligned. He has the whole rest of his life to get over it. Terri on the other hand does not. But anyway. Some things are very certain about the population of abusive men. There's a good chance they witnessed or received abuse as children. They tend to be young and poorly educated. They tend to have money problems and to be dissatisfied with their careers. They tend to blame things on others and to feel justified in their anger. There is plenty of evidence that Terri Schiavo had "a history of trauma." See the discussion at http://codeblueblog.blogs.com/codeblueblog/2005/03/csi_medblogs_co_1.html by a practising radiologist. Do we know for a fact that these injuries were a result of abuse? No, but this doctor seems pretty convinced that this is the case. Before you start with the hundreds of courts and millions of judges, no, nobody cleared Schiavo of abuse. Judge Greer found that the statute of limitations had expired so the point was moot. Do we know that Michael Schiavo was the author of the abuse? No, and in fact the radiologist I cite above thinks these injuries occured AFTER she collapsed. However, at the risk of outraging the Michael fans, this does not prove either that he is NOT responsible. Several of the nurses' affidavits mention that he was alone with her for long periods of time. But look at it this way, if he were, would anything be any different? No. Assuming for a moment that this is the case and that this case had not become the cause celebre that it had, would anyone know? Probably not. Women and their families are very reluctant to come forward with such charges, for the very good reason that the victim almost invariably gets blamed or is seen as provoking the abuse in some manner. Now, the evidence that says that Terri was crying and had had an argument with her husband on the night that she collapsed is hearsay, sure. But so is the evidence that said she had expressed a desire not to live in such a condition. Even if there had been an argument this does not prove that there was violence that night, no. But this hypothesis fits the facts exceedingly well. As to why the state agency did not intervene, apparently they were told that the local police planned to enforce Judge Greer's order, and the state police were unwilling to shoot it out. Why Judge Greer can override an allegation that he allowed the woman to be abused, I am not sure and I'd love to have this explained to me. It does not seem right to me. Far from implying that the other people involved in the case are idiots, I merely suggest that if there WAS abuse it's highly likely that Terri Schiavo would have told no-one. Dana On 4/13/05, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Dana wrote: > > I have a tiny bit of time and wondered - what is it exactly that you > > object to in this discussion of Michael Schiavo? > > 1.) Measuring Mr. Schiavo against an utterly subjective abuser > profile. The only type of profile that should be used is a > scientifically derived objective one. For example, I think that you > can say that if a person is a male black over 18, there's a 50% chance > he's been to jail. I doubt you can say any such repeatable, provable > thing about abusers. That means your accusation is based on a > completely subjective profile, which is to say baseless, and therefore > immoral. > > 2.) Accusing Mr. Schiavo of being an abuser with no physical evidence > and little to no circumstantial evidence. > > 3.) Insulting virtually everyone connected to the case by implying > they're idiots who can't see the truth of Mr. Schiavo's abuse. > (Since, if there was, they could've used it to disqualify him from > guardianship). > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:153906 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
