I seem to remember reading that the doctor that diagnosed TS had
previously diagnosed as PVS someone that was able to drive an electric
wheelchair, which would, if true, certainly imply some awareness and
cognitive function. I say if true because I do not remember the source
and there were definitely people in that discussion who did have an
agenda.

Dana

On 5/4/05, Ian Skinner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I heard this on the radio this morning.  I believe are dealing with a large 
> difference of degree of brain damage.
> 
> This fireman was able to sit and would watch television; he just would not 
> communicate with people for seven years.  I think there are a bid difference 
> between mute and PVS.
> 
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> ....-----Original Message-----
> ....From: Ray Champagne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ....Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 2:01 PM
> ....To: CF-Community
> ....Subject: For Gruss and Dana - stirring the pot
> ....
> ....Did anyone see the story about the brain damaged fireman who woke up
> ....after 9 years?
> ....
> ....Maybe they shouldn't have let Terry go?
> ....
> ....http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-brain04.html
> ....
> ....Channeling Linda Richman of SNL fame:
> ....
> ...."Sometimes a PVS is not really persistent.  Discuss"
> ....
> ....THE STORY:
> ....
> ....ORCHARD PARK, N.Y. -- Nearly 91/2 years after a firefighter was left
> ....brain-damaged and mostly mute during a 1995 roof collapse, he did
> ....something that shocked his doctors: He asked for his wife.
> ....
> ....Staffers at the nursing home where Donald Herbert has lived for more
> ....than seven years raced to get Linda Herbert on the telephone.
> ....
> ....It was the first of many conversations the patient had with his wife and
> ....four sons Saturday during a 14-hour stretch, Herbert's uncle Simon Manka
> ....said.
> ....
> ....''How long have I been away?'' Herbert asked. ''We told him almost 10
> ....years,'' the uncle said. ''He thought it was only three months.''
> ....
> ....''He stayed up 'til early morning talking with his boys and catching up
> ....on what they've been doing over the last several years,'' firefighter
> ....Anthony Liberatore said.
> ....
> ....Dr. Rose Lynn Sherr of New York University said such a recovery is
> ...."almost unheard of after 10 years.'' AP
> ....
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